Yes, ZenWorks is definitely payware. Last I checked, it was not cheap. I personally *greatly* prefer Novell eDirectory with ZenWorks over AD with (any utility I've seen thus far). It just seems to "make sense" to me, moreso than AD. ;) I wouldn't even bother looking into it unless you had already been thinking about it -- adding ZenWorks to a network is not trivial (or at least it wasn't back when I was managing ZenWorks networks -- it's been almost two years). I'm sure that Firefox has plenty of ways to be deployed and maintained on AD outside of Zen. Andrew On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:29:58 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > Andrew M Stemen <> wrote on Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:34 PM: > > I've heard about zenworks with FF, and I do use lots and lots of > batchscripts > too. Don't see what could possibly be bad with batchscripts though. 8-) > > Is zenworks payware? > > > > While some people look down on them, I think that batch scripts are > > wonderful tools. That's what I have used in the past to maintain Mozilla > > installations. > > > > The last time I deployed Firefox enterprise-wide was on a WAN running > > Novell NetWare with ZenWorks. In short, the way I managed it was: > > > > - Made an application "snapshot" for ZenWorks of the Firefox > > installation > > - Changed all of the program settings to the ones that I wanted to > > mandate > > - Modified the Firefox application in ZenWorks to use the mandatory > > settings, and to deploy them on the first installation > > - For each update thereafter, I would only have to replace the > > appropriate files in the application deployment, and increment the > > version counter, and the files were automatically updated on the next > > execution of the program. > > > > I'm well aware that this is not a ZenWorks mailing list... but I know > > that Firefox has been deployed across several enterprises that run AD. > > > > See also, this link: > > http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:2.0_Institutional_Deployment > > > > Andrew > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:17:03 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" > > <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > >> Phillip Newberry <> wrote on Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:04 PM: > >> > >> I can't count on my users to keep Mozilla/Firefox up-to-date, whenever an > >> exploit for it is discovered. > >> > >> Besides the IE merges fine with respect to forced settings etc in the AD, > >> compared to the opensource alternatives, at least as far as I know. Unless > >> somebody has made some sort of ADM-template for Moz/FF to be deployed over > >> AD/GPO and where settings can be set? > >> > >> > >>> No rush, Mozilla works great. They support their > >>> product with no head aches of potential virus's. It > >>> will be exclided in my updates for preventative > >>> measures. I'm not waiting in line to get software > >>> from a company that pushes out code that is known to > >>> be poorly written and easily hacked into. > >>> > >>> --- Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I've deployed the blocker to all our domain > >>>> computers. I've also enlisted a > >>>> handful of volunteer users to try the sharp release when it becomes > >>>> available. Should they not encounter any major problems I'm > >>>> rolling out IE7 ASAP. > >>>> > >>>> The RC1 I run on my own computer, has so far worked very good, with the > >>>> exception of a mad flickering of the pointer, when I leave the mouse > >>>> pointer in a field I'm about to fill with eg uid or some > >>>> such. Not a biggie, but it's > >>>> a bit irritating. > >>>> > >>>> Strangely enough, most of the volunteers have a > >>>> history with using Firefox at > >>>> home. Must the tabbed browsing that made them > >>>> volunteer. > >>>> > >>>> Thank god for Firefox, or MS wouldn't have included tabs in long, long > >>>> time...! Competition is good. 8-) > >>>> > >>>> _____ > >>>> > >>>> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herchenbach, Jim > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:22 PM > >>>> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [windows2000] IE7 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> What are people thinking in regard to the IE7 > >>>> update? Plans, Policies, etc? > >>>> Anyone considering the nonexpiring blocker? Just > >>>> curious how others are > >>>> planning around this or maybe it's not a big deal. > >>>> > >>>> Jim Herchenbach > >>>> RVW Inc. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Phil Newberry > >>> Computer Network Engineer Consultant > >>> MCSE NT&2000, MCP+IIS CNA, CAN > >>> > >>> Your destiny is in your hands. Just do it. > >>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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