Tim, Sorry I haven't had time to beta test the surface reader as you are developing it, but I have been following this thread. I do agree with (the other) Peter about the wording being a bit confusing. I was never sure whether I was setting inputs or outputs or to what in the original MDR Lite program. If that can be made more clear in a future update, that would be great. Actually, what happened for me was that once I got it right, I just kept things there - so it only took a bit of experimenting. Unfortunately, every once in a while things seemed to get out of sync again (maybe turning on USB devices in a different order or something) and then I would have to go through the process again. But at least once one gets it functioning, these are great tools. Keep up the great work. There are lots of us out here who appreciate it. Also, as I mentioned before, let me know when you'd like to be interviewed about the Surface Reader for our ViewPoints radio show / podcast and we can set something up with some demos and explanations. --Pete Check out ViewPoints A weekly, half hour radio program for people living with low vision Find out more about the show and get links to the podcasts at: www.ViewPointsPlus.net Visit us on Facebook at: http://www.facebook.com/ViewPointsPlus Follow us on Twitter at: www.twitter.com/@ViewPointsPlus Send suggestions or comments to: contact@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:03 AM To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [visurfacereader] Re: Display MIDI setup Hi Peter, This wording has plagued me throughout this project and its predecessor, so I definitely appreciate where you're coming from. I re-used the original dialog boxes from the original Mackie Display Reader because they were already a proven component, but there's definitely merit in considering a 4-list version as you've suggested. This might have to come in an update after we've got this version out, given the available (lack) of time. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:visurfacereader-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Bosher Sent: 28 June 2012 12:17 To: visurfacereader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [visurfacereader] Display MIDI setup Hi All, This is a tentative suggestion for a change to the add-surface dialogue. I was confused by the button called "Display MIDI setup". I first thought that it meant "show MIDI set-up", which seems like an easy mistake that might cause confusion to others. I think I now understand that it actually means set up MIDI for the surface display. The distinction between hardware setup and display setup is not very clear. My solution would be this: instead of having two buttons, put the set-up process in a single dialogue with four selections, which, if I've understood this right, I'd call: 1. Output from Control Surface 2. input to Surface Reader 3. from SR to Music app. 4. From music app back to Control surface. This might also help clarify the circuit. I may have this all wrong, as it isn't clear to me whether SR can take output from the music app as well as from the surface. If my circuit is right, then it can't, but is it? and the names might be improved, but what do you think? Best, Peter -- ******* Peter Bosher, Email: peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England.