And then there are the alternatives to Android - the iPhone and the Windows phone. The iPhone works very similarly to Android, and like Android, the iPhone comes with a screen reader (called VoiceOver). iPhones tend to be more expensive than equivalent Android phones and are not as customisable (the advantage of that being that if you have an iPhone it will be the same as everyone else's so what works on one will work on another. The disadvantage being that if you don't like the stock iPhone keyboard or text messaging app, bad luck because it's your only option). Windows Phone doesn't yet have a screen reader to the extent of Android or iPhone. I did hear that the newest ones will start to include a version of Narrator, and I believe they also have a magnifier, but I would definitely be going with either Android or an iPhone for accessibility, particularly screen reader accessibility for now. Re different Android manufacturers, yes as Glen said, Nexus devices run a more 'pure' Android interface and don't have as much bloat ware (extra apps and software features) which most of the manufacturers add on to their phones. Samsung are quite good, and their newest flagship phone, the S5, also has the ability to triple click the home key to quickly turn Talkback on and off, which is one feature of the iPhone which we have been hoping to see overe on Android. Some of the other manufacturers have had issues with accessibility, as when they have customised their interface, it has caused things not to work so well with the screen reader. I know at least HTC and Sony have suffered from this, and I'm not sure about LG. Even if you get one of their phones, you can replace most of the inaccessible apps and features, though there can still be issues, so I would stick with either a Nexus or a Samsung for best acessibility with Talkback. Regards Quentin. On 15 May 2014 12:30, Jeanie Vejil <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks Glen. Every little bit helps since I know very little about android > phones other than that they have touch screens. > > > > On Thursday 5/15/2014 12:15 PM, Dialup @ 56k wrote: >> >> Hello Jeanie, >> I'm sure Quinton has some really good info here, but here's my sixpence >> worth. >> Lots of manufacturere release smart phones running Android, like Samsung, >> HTC, LG, Motorola, just to name a few. >> These manufacturers also release a large variation in phone styles and >> available options. >> In terms of accessibility, the Nexus family of phones seems to be the most >> reliable as they run a pure version of Android without the bloat ware which >> compromises accessibility. >> Lots of manufacturers have released this Nexus variant over the years, >> including Samsung, LG, Asus etc. >> The LG Nexus 5 seems to be the most recent of these releases. >> Just to confuse the issue even more, it is reported that Google are about >> to rename the Nexus line to Silver. >> Hope this helps in some way. >> Regards, >> Glen Barwick >> >> >> *** >> >> >> >> On 15-May-14 11:38 AM, Jeanie Vejil wrote: >>> >>> Hi Quenton. >>> >>> Thanks for the summary below. Jus to show you how uninformed I am, are >>> there other brands of smart phones besides Samsung, smile. >>> >>> Jeanie >>> >>> On Thursday 5/15/2014 09:04 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jeanie, >>>> >>>> Welcome to the group! >>>> >>>> Ok, a very broad request, but in general, you can actually do most >>>> things on a smart phone that you can do on a computer - you can read / >>>> write E-Mails, browse the web, play games, read books, get directions >>>> (the phones have a GPS built in so you can find out where you are as >>>> well) and heaps more - and of course you can do the core tasks of >>>> making phone calls and sending / receiving text messages with them! >>>> >>>> The great thing is that, as on a computer, most tasks are able to be >>>> done relying solely on the screen reader (talkback), which reads >>>> everything out to you. >>>> >>>> The trickiest thing to get used to is that there are very few buttons >>>> and almost everything is done by interacting with the touch screen >>>> interface. Once you get familiar with the gestures (tapping / double >>>> tapping the screen, swiping and sliding your finger around) then you >>>> use similar gestures for most things. >>>> >>>> There are alternative interfaces and apps you can get to make things >>>> simpler, it mostly depends on exactly what you want to do with the >>>> phone - whether you want something to just be able to make and receive >>>> calls and text messages or whether you want to access e-mail, internet >>>> and other things. >>>> >>>> If you have any specific things you are wondering or tasks you would >>>> like to be able to do, let us know and I'm sure someone can give you >>>> more specific information. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Quentin. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15 May 2014 08:19, Jeanie Vejil <proud2have-tsedog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> > My name is Jeanie Vejil and I am totally blind. >>>> > >>>> > Hello to all. >>>> > >>>> > AS of yet, I do not own an Android smart phone, but am interested in >>>> all you >>>> > can teach me regarding what they can do, how difficult you feel they >>>> are to >>>> > use, etc. >>>> > >>>> > I hope to read your input soon. >>>> > >>>> > Jeanie >>>> > >>>> > To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. >>>> > >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list send an email to >>>> > vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject >>>> field >>>> > (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) >>>> > >>>> > To receive the list as a digest, send an email to >>>> > vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the >>>> subject >>>> > (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android digest' >>>> in the >>>> > subject). >>>> To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list send an email to >>>> vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject >>>> field (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) >>>> >>>> To receive the list as a digest, send an email to >>>> vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the >>>> subject (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android >>>> digest' in the subject). >>> >>> >>> To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list send an email to >>> vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >>> (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) >>> >>> To receive the list as a digest, send an email to >>> vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the >>> subject (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android >>> digest' in the subject). >> >> To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. >> >> To unsubscribe from the list send an email to >> vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) >> >> To receive the list as a digest, send an email to >> vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the subject >> (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android digest' in the >> subject). > > > To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. > > To unsubscribe from the list send an email to > vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) > > To receive the list as a digest, send an email to > vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the subject > (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android digest' in the > subject). 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