Richard, are you familiar with your system enough to ascertain the manufacturer of your HDD? Belarc, AIDA32 and some ?other? program will give all the hdwe. info on any PC. http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html http://www.aida32.hu/aida-download.php?bit=32 (IF U get AIDA go for the ENTERPRISE edition) Obtain the HDD's troubleshooting software that fits your box and let's try to eliminate your problem as to be emanating from bad hdwe., it may well be that your HDD is going on the blink. That's only a probability in my mind's eye. Let's verify I'm wrong on this one. You want to give that a try? We haven't exhausted all the software check points, but the most ordinary ones you have already tried. It could be you have a unique one, but... armando. ------------- Richard wrote: [triadtechtalk] Still.... Sloooooooooow Computer From: "Richard Matthew" <modelworker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:14:05 -0700 Hiya Armando I checked out http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm tried all to no avail. Not sure why I would want to uninstall Norton, though. > http://redirx.com/?t6u It came with my Dell, and I've never had a problem with it. The potential problem was with its mail safe feature conflicting with Zone Alarm's, and that wasn't it. I went thru site after site from the Google address you supplied, and I've tried all the solutions before (memory, defrag, trojans, spyware, too many startup progs etc). SNIP ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx