[THIN] Re: global or multi regional citrix farms
- From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:49:13 -0500
Brian, I am running out the door for my plane to Norway... BUT if you will
e-mail me off list I will respond once I get there with my powerpoint on
major changes in 3.0... Design/architectural.
I think I will be posting them all on Brian's site once the conference is
finished.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server
RapidApp, Chicago
Mobile 815 325-7618
Office 312 372-7188
e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lilley, Brian
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:08 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: global or multi regional citrix farms
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for your response. I have tried to direct the corporate strategy
down
a mainframe centric view. There, unfortunately, is no opportunity for
datacentre consolidation due to the spread of the user population.
Its initial driver was to provide a remote access solution for partners and
customers. As with most corporates over the past few years, the technology
has spread and is now seen as a serious computing platform. The shift in
thinking hasn't quite happened yet, but is certainly moving in that
direction.
The Citrix access suite is not seen as a desktop replacement. There is a
70/30
split between published apps and desktops, respectively. And in some cases
a
mix of the two, i.e. a published desktop running applications via ica
client
published by a further Citrix server.
How fragile is the Data Store? Would you trust it for a global farm? How
many
people out there have global farms? Is the moon made of cheese?
best regards, Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Thomas, Jeremy
Sent: 22 April 2004 08:48
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: global or multi regional citrix farms
Brian,
You say Consolidation. Are you going to consider datacentre consolidation=
as well?
I gather if they're upgrading from 1.8, it implies a major project to rep=
lace all their current Citrix servers with new ones, new OS, etc, so it's=
an opportunity to do some serious consolidation as well (though it depen=
ds what applications they run), reduce the number of datacentres, increas=
e security, improve manageability, reduce costs, etc.
Citrix =3D access and access =3D Citrix. So Citrix would position itself =
as the platform through which all users access all corporate data.
Are the citrix servers considered part of the office infrastructure (like=
desktop replacements) of part of the application (like single published =
application per farm). Also, what is the roadmap of the company? Where ar=
e they going to go with datacentre management, desktops, etc. over the ne=
xt 2-3 years?
IMO, there is no right way to design a farm unless you have spoken to the=
CIO first and got a good idea of where the company is taking it's IT inf=
rastructure, so to consider answering the question correctly, we'd need t=
o know this first. Then we can talk technical.
Regards,
Jeremy Thomas
-----Original Message-----
From: Lilley, Brian [mailto:brian.lilley@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: dinsdag 20 april 2004 20:22
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] global or multi regional citrix farms
Hi all,
Bit of an urgent request here... I need you guys that have designed big C=
itrix
farms to give me the benefit of your experience, Brian.. Jim et al... you=
know
who you are....
I have a customer who currently has around 50 1.8 farms dotted around the
globe. They are looking to consolidate into a Presentation Server III fa=
rm.
The intial thoughts were to simply have one global farm with a highly
resilient datastore replicated around the globe.
My concern with the single global farm firstly, is the ability to maintai=
n the
integrity and availability of the Datastore. The client are looking at O=
racle
on Sun kit for the Datastore. Despite their expertise on high availabili=
ty
database solutions, I am still aware that the datastore can be easily
corrupted, i.e. running chfarm whilst the CMC is open...
My question is this... what would you advise for a 20,000 user Citrix far=
m
split approx. equally across some 10 countries?
Are farm failover solutions available?
Thanks in advance...
B
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