[THIN] Re: TSCALE or Appsense
- From: "Malcolm Bruton" <malcolm.bruton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:41:56 -0500
Joe
You can do fair share with Appsense. Either by users or groups. Give
different sets of users higher priority and reserve x amount for the
system as well.
Malcolm
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: 07 January 2007 15:18
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: TSCALE or Appsense
Curious as to why you think Appsense is better than Armtech in terms of
CPU optimization? Armtech is a true CPU workload scheduler where as
AppSense does CPU clamping. Clamping is ok if you're trying to limit a
runaway processes, but how does AppSense know the difference between a
runaway process and an intensive one? What happens when you get 2 or
three of these runaway processes? Armtech work by providing a fair
share value to individual processes (used to be by session). So if you
have an intensive process, it will be allowed to use more of the
processor without affecting overall performance. Note that TScale
simple changes thread priority, something you can do for free with
threadmaster,
Joe
On 1/6/07, Rick Mack <ulrich.mack@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Angela,
TScale provides memory optimization by using DLL remapping to save
memory. AppSense performance mamager does the same thing, BUT it also
provides memory usage limits and more importantly working set trimming.
The latter can add up to huge memory savings if the amount of memory
allocated to an application can be trimmed back to just what it needs,
and essentialy stripped back to next to nothing if the application or
session is idle or the session is disconnected.
AppSense is just a much more advanced product when it comes to memory
management.
As Jim noted, the other priduct that has to be considered is Aurema
Armtech since it's been OEMed by Microsoft for the Windows System
Resource Manager (WSRM) included with Server 2003 Enterprise and
DataCenter and Citrix (CPU management component of PS4 Enterprise). But
I'd still rate AppSense as being way ahead of Armtech in terms of
virtual memory optimization and CPU utilization.
regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
Commander Australia
On 1/6/07, Angela Smith <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
Hi
Im tossing up between buying either TScale or Appsense and was
wondering
what the majority of people are using and what their experiences
have been.
Ive heard good things about both products. My main issue is
that I need to
tune memory / swap usage and both products supposedly do this.
Thanks
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