[THIN] Re: OFF TOPIC - about Name Servers

Feels like Monday all over again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Lambert 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:41 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OFF TOPIC - about Name Servers

I've seen stranger things wondered about. Haha.

I guess if I moved my DNS from one server to the other and I wanted to
see if that server was authoritative (if I didn't already know nslookup
would tell you non-authoritative answer, or authoritative answer) ... I
would want to display a list of all the zones. Probably not likely, but
hey.

We were talking about two different things it seems like. I wanted a
list of all zones (an external form of the dnscmd use, if you will)...
you wanted a list of all resource records within a particular zone.

Shew.

-----Original Message-----
From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:31 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OFF TOPIC - about Name Servers

You'd have to ask, though - why would you be bothered about the zones
run by an alien DNS server? ;-)

The question(s) I phrased to you was / were quite salient:-

> How do requests in one of your zones, manage if the record is 
> in another domain?
> 
> How does one particular zone, know about the other?

If you have a DNS server that itself wants to manage numerous zones -
unless you want it to go bouncing off elsewhere, in order for the
request to be told that *it* itself can resolve the query, is for the
various zones to be informed. They are so informed by various records.
This being the case, nslookup is your friend.

Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Lambert [mailto:rlambert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 29 July 2003 15:26
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OFF TOPIC - about Name Servers
> 
> Yup. 
> 
> Guess it depends on the scenario.
> 
> So yeah, potentially if you want to query a name server on 
> your domain for all the zones it hosts dnscmd would be a 
> viable solution. For another company's name server (or one 
> that doesn't support MS-RPC) it wouldn't work.
> 
> Good eye, though. I completely overlooked the fact it might 
> be internal. He didn't say. :-)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:12 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OFF TOPIC - about Name Servers
> 
> Comments inline...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 29 July 2003 14:34
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: OFF TOPIC - about Name Servers
> > 
> > I can't. And I've tried 10 different name servers. If you can
> > paste it here I'd like to see. It would be a nice tool to have.
> 
> Paste what?
> 
> > Of course, I can do this:
> > 
> > > server ns1.netsourceit.com
> > Default Server:  ns1.netsourceit.com
> > Address:  66.181.72.193
> > 
> > > ls -t ns netsourceit.com
> > [ns1.netsourceit.com]
> >  netsourceit.com.               NS     server = ns1.netsourceit.com
> >  netsourceit.com.               NS     server = ns2.netsourceit.com
> > >
> 
> The first time you responded, you said you got nothing, or 
> error messages (can't list domain messages)???
> 
> > But it's no good to me if I don't know what domains exist on
> > the server
> 
> How do requests in one of your zones, manage if the record is 
> in another domain?
> 
> How does one particular zone, know about the other?
> 
> > and I just want to dump a list of EVERYTHING, and
> > not a particular domain.
> 
> Then if you actually want to interact with the *server*, as 
> opposed to the DNS database / zone structure - use the dnscmd utility.
> 
> Bearing in mind, DNS is a hierarchical database - if you want 
> to interact with the database - you accept that. If you want to query
> *purely* the server and what it does, then you'll have to 
> purely query that server.
> 
> For example - dnscmd <servername> /enumzones - will tell you 
> all about the zones that purely that server deals with.
> 
> Neil

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