[THIN] Re: How ready\stable is MPS 4?
- From: <DMelczer@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:52:02 -0500
Jim-
With all due respect, I believe the reason your printing solution is
stable is because as you yourself admitted below, you only have 3 types
of printers that you work with. When you're dealing with home users who
purchase just about every type of printer available, things become
significantly more complicated. For us, ScrewDrivers has been pretty
damn good...certainly not perfect, but pretty damn good nonetheless.
As far as installing/upgrading with ScrewDrivers goes, they do indeed
have client push packages that work well with WI4 (hell, we were using
it on NFuse 1.6 with a Columbia interface at one point in time not too
long ago so it is pretty much universal)...the install is automatically
triggered for the users if their local client revision is not up to
date, and I haven't had any real complaints about it.
I believe the selection of a printing solution should be tailored for
each environment. Although the UPD works well for installations with
standardized printers, in an environment with a wide range of printer
types one of the "universal" printing solutions, whether it be tricerat,
thinprint, etc., becomes exponentially more attractive.
My $0.02 only...
-Dave Melczer
dmelczer@xxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://Kenzig.com
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:40 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: How ready\stable is MPS 4?
First let me say that I believe most all of the 3rd party printing
products have their own merit. That being said I have a problem with
how some of the vendors products work.
It is great that triCerat has removed the need for drivers on the server
but in doing so they require you install a "client" piece on the client.
This doesn't bode well with me. I understand that they are working on a
product that doesn't require a client but it is as yet to be released.
Here is the issue...instead of having to just install 1 driver on all
your servers...you are stuck supporting ALL of your workstations and
trying to find a way to get the client on them and teaching users how to
install it.. etc etc. Not to mention upgrading the tricerat client on
all the workstations when you need to.
I really am puzzled why people think this is such a "wonderful"
solution. Instead of a few drivers an d mappings on the server...you
have to install clients on every workstation you own or on any
workstation that connects so that they can print. shaking head...
Story time
I have a stable printing environment without the use of any 3rd party
utility. We do connect all client printers. It takes some work but it
can be done. We recently purchased a hosted ASP service by ADP to do
our timesheets and they wanted me to install the triCerat driver on all
of my workstations. I told them they are out of their mind. If I am
paying an ASP I don't expect to have to turn around and install 1000
printer clients and on top of it have an additional printer connecting
to my local citrix servers and being added into the mix.
I basically told ADP that they have a choice...either they can give us a
hosted server with the UPD enabled or add the printer drivers for the 3
types of printers that we use here beca use I was not going to add the
overhead to my local servers. I think it is insane and unacceptable for
a service provider to expect and require the client to have to install
any piece of software on their desktops other than the TS/Citrix client
that is.
ThinPrint does not require a client piece btw.
Jim Kenzig
Steve Greenberg wrote:
Yes, also a very good product
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin- On Behalf
Of Steve Parr
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:49 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: How ready\stable is MPS 4?
ThinPrint probably ranks well as a solution to do away with
having to
install drivers on Citrix as well no? Have not used it but
sounds like a
good product.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Steve Greenberg"
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:53:16
To:
Subject: [THIN] Re: How ready\stable is MPS 4?
Agreed, Tricerat has taken this tehcnology much further than EMF
and as a
result is approaching 100% reliable client printing....
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