Sorry. It's the UK National Health Service. Biggest employer in Britain, I believe. -----Original Message----- From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 22 July 2002 14:33 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Here's a biggie. Why is thin computing the future. Ok - Dumb question - What is NHS? Ray |--------+-------------------------------------> | | Angus Macdonald | | | <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxx| | | es.nhs.uk> | | | Sent by: | | | thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | | | | | | | | 07/18/2002 04:13 AM | | | Please respond to thin | | | | |--------+-------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | | cc: | | Subject: [THIN] Re: Here's a biggie. Why is thin computing the future. | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------| Those are all good points. Unfortunately we are in Wales and therefore not part of the MS deal with the NHS and I'd rather avoid Compaq after my DL360 experiences. We may even look into NewMoon as the licensing costs should be much lower. The first priority is to provide a nice convincing argument for the executive laymen. -----Original Message----- From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 17 July 2002 16:57 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Here's a biggie. Why is thin computing the future. Angus On the Licensing costs 1. Your Microsoft licensing will be dirt cheap due to the NHS deal with Microsoft. 2. I believe there will be a Citrix Licensing scheme that should give you substantial discounts if you get over a certain amount of seats. 3. With all that money that is being pumped into the NHS via next years Tax rise , im sure you should be able to swing funding if you put a decent proposal forward. 4. If you need new servers , get a special bid from Compaq. 5. Speak to your GCAT reseller who should be able to advise Even before that NHS agreement a TS CAL would have costed between approx. 4-10 quid whereas Private companies would have to pay approx. 50-58 quid.... regards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angus Macdonald" <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: Here's a biggie. Why is thin computing the future. > Ah but we ARE the desktop side of the house. Our problem is going to be > Finance saying "HOW MUCH????!!" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 17 July 2002 14:18 > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: Here's a biggie. Why is thin computing the future. > > > Good luck Angus. I get a lot of grief from the desktop side of the house. > Their company line is "We moved off mainframes to get away from that, and > now you want to force us back." What they are really saying is that they > like their job security :). It really is all in how you run the numbers. > > -Paul > > > ---------- > > From: Angus Macdonald[SMTP:angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Reply To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:14 AM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Here's a biggie. Why is thin computing the future. > > > > We all know the answer and I can probably list dozens of reasons myself > > but > > I need links to nice official independent web articles or documents > > detailing the benefits. > > > > At the moment we are using Citrix to deploy a patient admin app, but we'd > > like to start moving towards a fully thin environment and I've been tasked > > with providing a strategy document. 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