[THIN] Re: CCIA

  • From: "Sergio Blum" <sergio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 17:57:15 -0300

Yep! It's a great idea!=20
I'm sure it's already on time to Microsoft, Novell, Citrix, Cisco and =
others to start show who are really certified and who just had pass on a =
true-or-false exam.
Because the MS and CTX exams are only a joke.
Whe that have years of experience had to compete with guys that only =
started learn what is a wan?

>>> Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 06/06 1:06 am >>>
Man, That is exactly what Im talking about. Good to see a group of =3D
people are finally doing something about it.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Roy [mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20=20
Sent: Friday, 6 June 2003 3:41 p.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [THIN] Re: CCIA

Amusingly enough http://www.itc2.org/=3D20=20
Hth
rat

Thank you,
Roy A. Tokeshi
CCEA, CCI, MCDBA, MCSE, MCT
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-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tony Lyne
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 7:36 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [THIN] Re: CCIA

Yep, Im always being hassled by my boss to get mine sorted but time is =3D
=3D3D
the big factor.=3D3D20

The CCEA cert thing has become a bit like MCSE, since all of these cram
=3D3D
sites and papers came out, its appears to be loosing credibility.

Basically you either can or cannot do the stuff, references always speak
=3D3D
more than certifications.

Heres a thought, why doesn't the IT industry adopt a fellowship thing =3D
=3D3D
like doctors. Get rid of these paper certified dudes and companies who =3D
=3D3D
are making a killing from these get certified quick schemes.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20=20
Sent: Friday, 6 June 2003 2:24 p.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [THIN] Re: CCIA

Sure. There was a big rush early (in the resller community for sure)
Then after about 500-600 were through it slowed down some. But there are
a lot of them

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Lyne [mailto:Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20=20
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:24 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [THIN] Re: CCIA

People actually bother doing the CCEA exams?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D20=20
Sent: Friday, 6 June 2003 1:49 p.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [THIN] Re: CCIA

The exams are not available yet (I think q3 is the date now). But I
doubt there will be a lot of these guys outside of resellers.

Simple reason is that it is really like an in-depth MetaFrame Admin
course that gets more into the services and the architecture.=3D3D3D3D3D20

Once you take the written exam (computer based obviously) and pass then
you will have to go to Citrix and take a hands-on much like the CCIE. Of
course you have to pay for it, and travel... much more than spending a
Saturday morning at Silvan for 100 bucks.

Now I THINK that resellers might be able to use some other funds for
this. But even if they cant most will be required to keep one of these
guys on staff anyway and will for up for their top Citrix guy.

I mean when the CCEA first came out we all thought it was the biggest
thing in the reseller community. Hell I even took everything in beta so
I could get a cool "original CCEA" jacket from them for the first 50
guys to get the cert. But alas now it is no big deal and I don't even
know where the jacket is anymore.



Ron Oglesby
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sergio Blum [mailto:sergio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D3D20=20
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:43 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [THIN] CCIA

Does anyone know anything about the CCIA certification.=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
Have they already launched the the exam?
Have anyone already made it?


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