[THIN] Re: CCIA
- From: "Roy" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 10:59:04 -0700
Sorry, my point was the behavior and belief systems are hard if not
impossible to change. Certified or not, there is no proof either way of
a person's caliber. What you actually DO makes a difference.
If my rant made it seem that certification is the be and end all I'm
sorry. That isn't what I meant.
What I mean is that:
Those who get the job done are the ones who get the respect, and
rightfully so. But just because a manager has not way to qualify a
person outside of certifications is no reason to get upset. I can't
qualify many professionals except for referral, reputation or sheer
luck. That unfortunately is just how it is. I believe that people with
or without certifications are successful the same way. Referral,
reputation and performance.
Some get by with less.
I wish it was different.
I truly respect you for taking a stand in the situation because of your
opinion.
And I wish you the best.
rat
Thank you,
Roy A. Tokeshi
CCEA, CCI, MCDBA, MCSE, MCT
www.tokeshi.com
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lucas Boyken
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:37 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CCIA
Importance: High
You make it sound like these pieces of paper are the key to the IT
industry. Unfortunately, most people do not treat certs the way you do.
They see these pieces of paper as keys to a higher tax braket. A lot of
people don't care about knowing the material or retaining it, they just
want to pass the test, get the job, and let someone else help them with
the problems. I have run into more people that have certs and know less
than the average user. This makes me upset, because people put such a
high importance on these certs that they don't care about the substance
behind them. This is wrong, this is why I refuse to certify myself on
anything. For better or for worse...
Lucas W. Boyken
Computer Systems Associates
Account Manager / Technical Representative
lboyken@xxxxxxxxx
Company Phone: 800.222.7601
Office Phone: 515.332.2751
Fax: 515.332.5687
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