[THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer

Yes it does, but the SPLA is on a SAL basis (SAL=CAL, sort of). If you have 10 
users using your hosted systems, using W2K8, then you pay for 10 SALS *no 
matter how many servers you have*. So it is fine to have 6 file server, 2 dc, 2 
dns, 20  ts, 4  hyper-v, and the W2K3/8 bit of those licences is all covered by 
the SAL cost.

Again, *if* you're hosting MS apps, you *will* be paying the SAL cost in pretty 
much every case, which makes Hyper-V effectively free. If you're running Linux 
it isn't, clearly.

The 10 SALs, BTW, will cost ~$5/month - I have a UK price list so don't take 
that as too rigid but gives a general idea.

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Andrew Wood
Sent: 25 February 2009 15:41
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free 
XenServer

Because its only 'free' when you have an SPLA - and having an SPLA subjects you 
to a monthly charge doesn't it?


From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Steve Greenberg
Sent: 25 February 2009 14:35
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free 
XenServer

Cool, I didn't realize that....

So now that Hyper-V is effectively free why would someone choose that versus 
XEN?




Steve Greenberg

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Nick Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:26 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free 
XenServer

Microsoft's SPLA - effectively a requirement if you're hosting MS apps - has 
the side effect of making Hyper-V free for all practical purposes.

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Also consider that everyone says that the Microsoft Hyper-V is free, however, 
you still have to buy Windows server to get it!! In your cloud example there 
are MANY commercial cases where a hypervisor that is actually free will 
continue to make economic sense for a long time!!




Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Jeremy Saunders
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:01 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free 
XenServer

If you follow groups like http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing/, you 
will definitely get the idea that XenSource is the dominating hypervisor within 
the "Cloud". Of course Cloud means different things to different people. Not 
wanting to take Serguei's comments out of context, but when he says "This will 
signal the eventual end of XEN", that will only happen when marketing rebrand 
it J.

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Steve Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free 
XenServer


BTW, don't forget that according to the press releases Xen is "Cloud Proven", 
that is my new requirement for all products! J




Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:29 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free 
XenServer

yeah, i agree.  some pretty strange stuff floating around out there.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Jeremy Saunders 
<Jeremy.Saunders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jeremy.Saunders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Some bizarre comments indeed. Everyone that's blogged and commented on this has 
had some strong opinions. Some border on what could be ignorance, as hard as 
they try to put a positive spin on it for themselves.



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Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:38 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free 
XenServer



Interesting read regarding some reaction to the announcement of free XenServer 
yesterday.

from Zdnet:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/virtualization/?p=726

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