[TechAssist] Re: a new thought? RE:Sams photofact cost?
- From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:29:55 -0400
Problem is the manufactures do not want them repaired in the field. They
want to sell only new units,
Phillip R Hull
phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: a new thought? RE:Sams photofact cost?
>
> Probably not exactly legal but I agree with Ed, I don't think any of the
> manufacturers really care if we do this anyway. At least their products
are
> getting repaired in the field.
> Jim Myers
> Telrad Electronic Services Co.
> Fort Wayne, IN 46815
> jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 260-432-4486 Fax and Voice
> Fax is always on
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:16 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: a new thought? RE:Sams photofact cost?
>
>
>
> My thinking on this is, since TechAssist is being run on a voluntary
basis,
> implementing a service such as this would be more time consuming for the
> guys that only have so many hours in a day, 32 the last time I checked.
> Plus charging a fee for Service Literature would infringe on copyright of
> the companies involved. Paying these companies for use of their material
> would again show their greed.
> Keep the sharing of Service info on a peer-to-peer basis, If I have it,
your
> welcome...If you have it..I'm welcome.
> This is one of the reasons Tech's go to a Peer Group like TechAssist,
> help is being supplied on a personal basis.
>
> -Ed-
>
> > From: walter wood <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: a new thought? RE:Sams photofact cost?
> >
> >
> > Gary; Think again. I DO buy SAMS, I just don't
> > subscribe. I suspect that most other non
> > subscribers buy on an as needed basis as I do.
> > Also consider the help that some of us render from
> > PartsFinder, Z-tips, WinsTips, Jeff's tip CD, and
> > the thousands of dollars of factory schematics that
> > we are forced to buy to remain ASC's.
> > Also, it's pretty easy to tell who is a pro, and
> > who isn't.
> > Also, I received tons of help from the established
> > techs when I started out 33 years ago.
> > Helping out the newcomers is a way to pay back.
> > Saw a great movie the other day called "Pay it
> > Forward."
> > Might have a message here.
> > Respectfully
> > Walter
> > --- Gary McCartney <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> What about the 400 list members who wouldn't pay
> >> for the subscription.
> >> How would they be filtered out of the benefits of
> >> receiving help from
> >> other members who do pay for the schematics? It
> >> would be too hard for
> >> each of us to keep track of who is eligable to
> >> receive schematic
> >> assistance and who wouldn't be. The other thing
> >> that could be done is
> >> make Tech Assist a pay service of $100.00 per
> >> year and the schematic
> >> service would be automatically included in that
> >> price.
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary McCartney
> >>
> >> McCartney Electronics
> >> 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
> >> Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
> >> Fax: (519)821-1530
> >> email: number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill S wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Two thoughts; ??
> >>>
> >>> With treasure chest schematics and with tips
> >> like Winstip, CD tech disc and
> >>> other things being available for us, I would
> >> assume that $840.00 cost per
> >>> year for subscription is kinda a waste.... BUT
> >> as near as I can tell, there
> >>> are libraries that will listen to the public
> >> about those things that the
> >>> good ole public would like to have in their
> >> library. In Minnesota, if the
> >>> local branch did not have the right sams, then
> >> you could order out of the
> >>> main branch (Minneapolis) and it would be sent
> >> to you "photo copied" at no
> >>> cost.
> >>> But a new thought??????????
> >>> There is in the music industry a 'flat user'
> >> fee for music that is used in
> >>> the church. So if a choir or a church used a
> >> 'copyrighted' song, then the
> >>> royalties were paid a one time fee to a
> >> clearing house that specializes in
> >>> just that type of thing. There is a license
> >> number that is assigned to that
> >>> church organization for the use of that
> >> material.
> >>>
> >>> Nowww what would happen if "we the techs" were
> >> to subscribe to Techassist
> >>> schematic clearing house (kinda like what we do
> >> in support for internet fee
> >>> that is paid to Techassist). If I needed a CTC
> >> 177 print and I had paid a
> >>> yearly fee of $100.00 (as an example) and the
> >> print was either faxed or
> >>> emailed and the clearing house would pay a
> >> royalty fee to RCA and so on.
> >>> This would offer us an advantage at being more
> >> legitimate legally speaking,
> >>> Answers the critics of copyrights, Offer us
> >> better more timely resources,
> >>> and helps support each other in a way that may
> >> allow for us to answer
> >>> questions about problems rather than looking up
> >> prints and such. We could
> >>> even contribute to the library as it were.
> >>>
> >>> Granted there would be a lot of work. I read
> >> that the list is up to 800
> >>> plus members and say for example if 400 people
> >> paid the $100.00 yearly fee,
> >>> that would be $40,000 per year to run this
> >> thing.
> >>> My two bits...
> >>> Bill Sorensen
> >>> New Life Video & Audio
> >>> billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Tel-Tek Electronics"
> >> <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:23 PM
> >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sams photofact cost?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> With all you guys unsubbing, no wonder the
> >> price keeps going up. But
> >>> that's
> >>>> pretty high for a monthly charge.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Ed-
> >>>>
> >>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
> >>>> Midland, Ont. Canada.
> >>>> teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>> "Quality will be remembered, long after Price
> >> is forgotten"
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "al" <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:29 PM
> >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sams photofact
> >> cost?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I unsubbed,it will take years for me to
> >> notice.For $70. per monthg I can
> >>>>> order whatever I need,price was too high.
> >> Comments? al
> >>>>>
> >>>>> alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Al Leatherman
> >>>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
> >>>>> 973-361-5796
> >>>>> WWW.ALS-TV.NET
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Dan Garris" <dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:18 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Sams photofact cost?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am a long-time Sams Photofacts
> >> subscriber and presently paying $70
> >>> per
> >>>>>> month for sub. UPS is $3.84. SO my
> >> Monthly total for my Sams sub is
> >>>>> $73.84
> >>>>>> How much are other shops here in the
> >> group paying? Many local shops
> >>> I've
> >>>>>> spoken to have long canceled their sub.
> >> Prices keep rising also on the
> >>>>> Sams
> >>>>>> sub. But I like the sub rather than the
> >> online method. Any comments
> >>> from
> >>>>>> other shops on the group here?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dan Garris
> >>>>>> Garris TV
> >>>>>> 3104 Neuse Blvd.
> >>>>>> New Bern, NC. 28560-4116
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 252-638-4477 voice
> >>>>>> 252-635-2772 fax
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mailto:dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
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> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary McCartney
> >>
> >> McCartney Electronics
> >> 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
> >> Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
> >> Fax: (519)821-1530
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> >
> > =====
> > Walter Wood
> > Future Tech Home Center
> > 2786 Hwy. 43 N.
> > Lawrenceburg Tn. 38464
> > 931-829-3337
> > Fax 931-829-4044
> > mailto:wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx
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