Gary; Think again. I DO buy SAMS, I just don't subscribe. I suspect that most other non subscribers buy on an as needed basis as I do. Also consider the help that some of us render from PartsFinder, Z-tips, WinsTips, Jeff's tip CD, and the thousands of dollars of factory schematics that we are forced to buy to remain ASC's. Also, it's pretty easy to tell who is a pro, and who isn't. Also, I received tons of help from the established techs when I started out 33 years ago. Helping out the newcomers is a way to pay back. Saw a great movie the other day called "Pay it Forward." Might have a message here. Respectfully Walter --- Gary McCartney <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > What about the 400 list members who wouldn't pay > for the subscription. > How would they be filtered out of the benefits of > receiving help from > other members who do pay for the schematics? It > would be too hard for > each of us to keep track of who is eligable to > receive schematic > assistance and who wouldn't be. The other thing > that could be done is > make Tech Assist a pay service of $100.00 per > year and the schematic > service would be automatically included in that > price. > > > Gary McCartney > > McCartney Electronics > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > Fax: (519)821-1530 > email: number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > Bill S wrote: > > > > Two thoughts; ?? > > > > With treasure chest schematics and with tips > like Winstip, CD tech disc and > > other things being available for us, I would > assume that $840.00 cost per > > year for subscription is kinda a waste.... BUT > as near as I can tell, there > > are libraries that will listen to the public > about those things that the > > good ole public would like to have in their > library. In Minnesota, if the > > local branch did not have the right sams, then > you could order out of the > > main branch (Minneapolis) and it would be sent > to you "photo copied" at no > > cost. > > But a new thought?????????? > > There is in the music industry a 'flat user' > fee for music that is used in > > the church. So if a choir or a church used a > 'copyrighted' song, then the > > royalties were paid a one time fee to a > clearing house that specializes in > > just that type of thing. There is a license > number that is assigned to that > > church organization for the use of that > material. > > > > Nowww what would happen if "we the techs" were > to subscribe to Techassist > > schematic clearing house (kinda like what we do > in support for internet fee > > that is paid to Techassist). If I needed a CTC > 177 print and I had paid a > > yearly fee of $100.00 (as an example) and the > print was either faxed or > > emailed and the clearing house would pay a > royalty fee to RCA and so on. > > This would offer us an advantage at being more > legitimate legally speaking, > > Answers the critics of copyrights, Offer us > better more timely resources, > > and helps support each other in a way that may > allow for us to answer > > questions about problems rather than looking up > prints and such. We could > > even contribute to the library as it were. > > > > Granted there would be a lot of work. I read > that the list is up to 800 > > plus members and say for example if 400 people > paid the $100.00 yearly fee, > > that would be $40,000 per year to run this > thing. > > My two bits... > > Bill Sorensen > > New Life Video & Audio > > billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" > <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:23 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sams photofact cost? > > > > > > > > With all you guys unsubbing, no wonder the > price keeps going up. But > > that's > > > pretty high for a monthly charge. > > > > > > -Ed- > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > Midland, Ont. Canada. > > > teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > "Quality will be remembered, long after Price > is forgotten" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "al" <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:29 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sams photofact > cost? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I unsubbed,it will take years for me to > notice.For $70. per monthg I can > > > > order whatever I need,price was too high. > Comments? al > > > > > > > > alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Al Leatherman > > > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > > > > 973-361-5796 > > > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dan Garris" <dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:18 PM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Sams photofact cost? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a long-time Sams Photofacts > subscriber and presently paying $70 > > per > > > > > month for sub. UPS is $3.84. SO my > Monthly total for my Sams sub is > > > > $73.84 > > > > > How much are other shops here in the > group paying? Many local shops > > I've > > > > > spoken to have long canceled their sub. > Prices keep rising also on the > > > > Sams > > > > > sub. But I like the sub rather than the > online method. Any comments > > from > > > > > other shops on the group here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan Garris > > > > > Garris TV > > > > > 3104 Neuse Blvd. > > > > > New Bern, NC. 28560-4116 > > > > > > > > > > 252-638-4477 voice > > > > > 252-635-2772 fax > > > > > > > > > > Mailto:dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN > Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > > > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > ------------------------------------------ > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > -- > > > > Gary McCartney > > McCartney Electronics > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > Fax: (519)821-1530 > email: number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ------------------------------------------ > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > ------------------------------------------ > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > Submit Repair Tips here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ ===== Walter Wood Future Tech Home Center 2786 Hwy. 43 N. 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