Al; That is why the clearing house license like the church organizations use for their copyrighted music. Its a one time yearly fee for the royalties charges. Bill Sorensen New Life Video & Audio billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "al" <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: a new thought? RE:Sams photofact cost? > > would work for me,but for one word COPYRIGHT!! al > > alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Al Leatherman > Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > 973-361-5796 > WWW.ALS-TV.NET > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary McCartney" <number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:14 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: a new thought? RE:Sams photofact cost? > > > > > > What about the 400 list members who wouldn't pay for the subscription. > > How would they be filtered out of the benefits of receiving help from > > other members who do pay for the schematics? It would be too hard for > > each of us to keep track of who is eligable to receive schematic > > assistance and who wouldn't be. The other thing that could be done is > > make Tech Assist a pay service of $100.00 per year and the schematic > > service would be automatically included in that price. > > > > > > Gary McCartney > > > > McCartney Electronics > > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > > Fax: (519)821-1530 > > email: number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill S wrote: > > > > > > Two thoughts; ?? > > > > > > With treasure chest schematics and with tips like Winstip, CD tech disc > and > > > other things being available for us, I would assume that $840.00 cost > per > > > year for subscription is kinda a waste.... BUT as near as I can tell, > there > > > are libraries that will listen to the public about those things that the > > > good ole public would like to have in their library. In Minnesota, if > the > > > local branch did not have the right sams, then you could order out of > the > > > main branch (Minneapolis) and it would be sent to you "photo copied" at > no > > > cost. > > > But a new thought?????????? > > > There is in the music industry a 'flat user' fee for music that is used > in > > > the church. So if a choir or a church used a 'copyrighted' song, then > the > > > royalties were paid a one time fee to a clearing house that specializes > in > > > just that type of thing. There is a license number that is assigned to > that > > > church organization for the use of that material. > > > > > > Nowww what would happen if "we the techs" were to subscribe to > Techassist > > > schematic clearing house (kinda like what we do in support for internet > fee > > > that is paid to Techassist). If I needed a CTC 177 print and I had paid > a > > > yearly fee of $100.00 (as an example) and the print was either faxed or > > > emailed and the clearing house would pay a royalty fee to RCA and so on. > > > This would offer us an advantage at being more legitimate legally > speaking, > > > Answers the critics of copyrights, Offer us better more timely > resources, > > > and helps support each other in a way that may allow for us to answer > > > questions about problems rather than looking up prints and such. We > could > > > even contribute to the library as it were. > > > > > > Granted there would be a lot of work. I read that the list is up to 800 > > > plus members and say for example if 400 people paid the $100.00 yearly > fee, > > > that would be $40,000 per year to run this thing. > > > My two bits... > > > Bill Sorensen > > > New Life Video & Audio > > > billans@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:23 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sams photofact cost? > > > > > > > > > > > With all you guys unsubbing, no wonder the price keeps going up. But > > > that's > > > > pretty high for a monthly charge. > > > > > > > > -Ed- > > > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > > > Midland, Ont. Canada. > > > > teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > "Quality will be remembered, long after Price is forgotten" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "al" <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:29 PM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sams photofact cost? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I unsubbed,it will take years for me to notice.For $70. per monthg I > can > > > > > order whatever I need,price was too high. Comments? al > > > > > > > > > > alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Al Leatherman > > > > > Mine Hill, NJ 07803 > > > > > 973-361-5796 > > > > > WWW.ALS-TV.NET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Dan Garris" <dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:18 PM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Sams photofact cost? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a long-time Sams Photofacts subscriber and presently paying > $70 > > > per > > > > > > month for sub. UPS is $3.84. SO my Monthly total for my Sams sub > is > > > > > $73.84 > > > > > > How much are other shops here in the group paying? Many local > shops > > > I've > > > > > > spoken to have long canceled their sub. Prices keep rising also on > the > > > > > Sams > > > > > > sub. But I like the sub rather than the online method. Any > comments > > > from > > > > > > other shops on the group here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan Garris > > > > > > Garris TV > > > > > > 3104 Neuse Blvd. > > > > > > New Bern, NC. 28560-4116 > > > > > > > > > > > > 252-638-4477 voice > > > > > > 252-635-2772 fax > > > > > > > > > > > > Mailto:dgarris@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > > > > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > > > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Gary McCartney > > > > McCartney Electronics > > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7 > > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4 > > Fax: (519)821-1530 > > email: number63@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ------------------------------------------ > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > ------------------------------------------ > > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > > Submit Repair Tips here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > ------------------------------------------ > ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** > Submit Repair Tips here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/ ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html ------------------------------------------ ***NEW*** Tips Added Instantly!!!*** Submit Repair Tips here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/