Bil; That leaves a question? I have a 160 Gig External Drive. USB. What program can I use to Clone my Boot Drive onto the 160 GIG External, to always have a backup on that drive. -Ed- Tel-Tek Electronics Ontario-Canada teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Barry Thompson" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > Barry, > > That sounds like a plan. I keep my main drive cloned to a second drive > (cloning a partition if it changes much), then pull the drive out of > the rack mount (in case of lightning or severe power surge). > > I would like to have it set up like yours, so the second drive could > boot up (to test it) without having to pull the cables off of the > main drive. Is this what you have? Boot menus are often added to the > first sector of the hard drive (like an installed program). > > I keep 98 on an old drive just in case I need to run a program which > only works with 98 (no sense in having it on a 40G hard drive). Having > a backup of your newest system is what's really important. > > -- > Best regards, > > Bil Green > PC 1000 > Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 7:07:44 AM, you wrote: > > BT> Hi Bil: I have just installed XP pro and keeping my win 98 on a second HD > BT> installed as master on the secondary Ide.This way I can drag my uninstalled > BT> programs and reinstall in XP and slowly build XP.I have a boot menu in my > BT> bios which makes it easy.I had trouble with my asus v7100 tuner combo > BT> card,it was sluggish and wouldn't install my second monitor for video out, > BT> the reason being it doesn't have a second generic pci display driver to > BT> install.I installed a ATI radeon 7500 64 meg and with video out and works > BT> ok. > BT> barrystv@xxxxxxx > BT> Barrys TV > BT> Ottawa Canada > BT> ----- Original Message ----- > BT> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > BT> To: "Barry Thompson" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > BT> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:14 AM > BT> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > > > >> Hi Barry, > >> > >> No need to remove a DOS partition when installing 2000 or XP > >> > >> You don't have to install XP using the NTFS file system. You can > >> select FAT32 during the install (not as good though). And if you > >> do select NTFS the CD will convert the existing file system for > >> you (or maybe that's just if you format, I forgot). > >> > >> You can always covert later too: > >> > >> Just go to RUN, type CMD (Enter) and execute the command: > >> convert c: /fs:ntfs (space on both sides of c:) > >> > >> Walk away for a while and when you come back, but you finally > >> have NTFS > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Bil Green > >> PC 1000 > >> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >> 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 11:11:13 PM, you wrote: > >> > >> BT> That is a roll Back from a previous install, in order to install XP > BT> you have > >> BT> to remove the dos partition.I don't think ntfs will recognize a dos > >> BT> partition, so you will have to use fdisk and then boot from the cd and > >> BT> install a ntfs partition, > >> BT> barrystv@xxxxxxx > >> BT> Barrys TV > >> BT> Ottawa Canada > >> BT> ----- Original Message ----- > >> BT> From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> BT> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> BT> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:02 AM > >> BT> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> > >> > >> >> Well, there is a "Remove Win 98" in my add/remove program in Control > >> BT> Panel, > >> >> and this is the only OS that has been on this computer.....I suspect > BT> that > >> BT> I > >> >> could press that, remove 98, re-install XP and hopefully no hidden > BT> garbage > >> >> will be left over...other than that I could gather up all my software > BT> CD's > >> BT> I > >> >> use, and see whats left of the software on my HD and copy to CD rom > BT> before > >> >> reformatting....which to me is NEXT to Impossible to get all the files > >> >> needed for each program. > >> >> > >> >> Sometimes I wish the installed programs would be easier to identify > BT> each > >> >> file it installed.....remember copy C: *.exe?? or bat?? and good ol' > >> BT> *.* > >> >> ?? > >> >> > >> >> Damon Brunger > >> >> Telrad Electronic Services > >> >> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:25 PM > >> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> | Damon, > >> >> | A clean install involves wiping your hard drive and installing..this > BT> is > >> >> what they are referring to. > >> >> | So you can get a clean install by using an upgrade CD, if you wipe > BT> your > >> >> hard drive. > >> >> | Even is you use the full version, if you do not wipe your hard drive, > >> BT> this > >> >> would not be a clean install. > >> >> | Jeff > >> >> | -- > >> >> | Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair > >> >> | 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 > >> >> | 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 > >> >> | www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > >> >> | ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:39 AM > >> >> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | Ok folks, I apologize to Bil Green for reading way too much into his > >> >> | statement: > >> >> | "All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to > >> >> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice" > >> >> | > >> >> | I see after this conversation that he was speaking of installation > >> >> | procedures and not of the software quality. But as I leave this > >> >> | conversation....lettuce agree that words have power...and > BT> constructing > >> >> these > >> >> | words can certainly bring us problems if we do not carefully select > BT> the > >> >> | words to use.....May be I would have said: > >> >> | > >> >> | "All the pro's seem to agree that an installation upgrade from Win98 > BT> or > >> BT> Me > >> >> | to > >> >> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. A clean install is better." > >> >> | > >> >> | Or better yet: > >> >> | > >> >> | A clean install is the preferred method for most pro's if you choose > BT> to > >> >> | upgrade to XP.....(note the extra space left unused by this > BT> nitpicker). > >> >> | > >> >> | Damon Brunger > >> >> | Telrad Electronic Services > >> >> | Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > >> >> | > >> >> | ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:48 PM > >> >> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | > >> >> | > >> >> | | I like the way you put that Bill! > >> >> | | I second that! > >> >> | | Philip, I must disagree with you though. > >> >> | | I do not think any one should be banned. > >> >> | | Sometimes it takes a grain of salt, sometimes a pound. > >> >> | | But think of it, where would this world be without watchdogs? >(;o) > >> >> | | > >> >> | | Ty > >> >> | | > >> >> | | Tiberius Kraemer > >> >> | | BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS > >> >> | | 3312 Silverton Rd. NE > >> >> | | Salem, Oregon > >> >> | | Phone: 503 391 1491 > >> >> | | Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | > >> >> | | > >> >> | | > >> >> | | -----Original Message----- > >> >> | | From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bil Green > >> >> | | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 1:32 PM > >> >> | | To: Phillip R. Hull > >> >> | | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | > >> >> | | > >> >> | | Thanks Phillip, > >> >> | | > >> >> | | Most of the guys are just fine. There's bound to be a wise guy or > >> >> | | just someone who has to nit pick in every bunch. At least they > >> >> | | can't stop us from giving good advice, which still reaches the > >> >> | | group. > >> >> | | > >> >> | | -- > >> >> | | Best regards, > >> >> | | > >> >> | | Bil Green > >> >> | | PC 1000 > >> >> | | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >> >> | | 760-924-1000 > >> BT> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | > >> >> | | Monday, June 14, 2004, 7:02:13 AM, you wrote: > >> >> | | > >> >> | | PRH> It seems like people like to cut you down, no matter what you > >> BT> post > >> >> | | because > >> >> | | PRH> their idea is always better than yours or they have to nit > BT> pick > >> >> every > >> >> | | word > >> >> | | PRH> you use and take your post apart and make you look bad. I > BT> think > >> >> | anyone > >> >> | | that > >> >> | | PRH> does this should be banned from this group. > >> >> | | > >> >> | | PRH> Phillip R Hull STET > >> >> | | PRH> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | PRH> FAX 517--569-3075 > >> >> | | PRH> Professional Technicians only > >> >> | | PRH> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | > >> >> | | > >> >> | | >> I didn't say that all the pro agree with ME. I said: "All the > >> BT> pro's > >> >> | | >> seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to 2000 or XP is a > >> BT> very > >> >> | | >> poor choice." I should have said that MOST of the pro's... And > BT> it > >> >> | | >> appears that upgrading to 2000 causes more problems than XP. > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> There are 2 meanings to the word upgrade. When you upgrade your > BT> PC > >> >> with > >> >> | | >> a better motherboard you don't keep the old motherboard in the > >> >> system. > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> But when you upgrade from Windows 98 to XP by using the XP > BT> upgrade > >> BT> CD > >> >> | | >> it not the same as a clean install. Apparently with XP it goes > >> >> | | >> smoother than with Me or 2000, but it's still better to do a > BT> fresh > >> >> | | >> install. You can always try it and see how it goes. > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> The last thing I would ever do is format (no need if you know > BT> how > >> BT> to > >> >> | | >> delete the folders "Windows" and "Program Files" (and all > >> BT> unnecessary > >> >> | | >> files and folders under C:). This way you can keep your personal > >> >> | | >> folders and files when doing a fresh install (and it will be > >> BT> totally > >> >> | | >> fresh). > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> -- > >> >> | | >> Best regards, > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> Bil Green > >> >> | | >> PC 1000 > >> >> | | >> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >> >> | | >> 760-924-1000 > >> >> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:33:28 AM, you wrote: > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> D> Wait a minute....THAT IS NOT WHAT I PERCIEVED..... > >> >> | | >> D> I read that XP is good.....real good to upgrade to.... > >> >> | | >> D> (NT wrapped in a pretty wrapper) > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> D> So what happened to you with XP?? > >> >> | | >> D> BTW "all the pro's"?? agree with you?? > >> >> | | >> D> Did I miss something here??? > >> >> | | >> D> WE NEED AN OFFICIAL POLL.....and I'm just the one to do it. > >> >> | | >> D> Fill in your initials like this: (thanks guys) > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> D> Love it > >> >> | | >> D> V db jrm (plenty of room on this side guys........) > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> Hate it (CPU below 500MHZ/3Gig HD or less) > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> Hate it (CPU below 1.0 GHz/10Gig HD or less) > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> Hate it......I just hate it.....I tried to install it, but I > >> BT> just > >> >> | hate > >> >> | | PRH> it. > >> >> | | >> D> Hate, Hate Hate Hate Hate. I'd do awful things to it if it > BT> were > >> BT> a > >> >> | | PRH> girl..... > >> >> | > >> >> | | >> D> V > >> >> | | >> D> (Thanks guys) > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> D> Damon Brunger > >> >> | | >> D> Telrad Electronic Services > >> >> | | >> D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> D> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> D> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> D> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> D> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:27 AM > >> >> | | >> D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | >> D> | All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me > BT> to > >> >> | | >> D> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. The various errors and > BT> file > >> >> | | >> D> | corruption will still be there. There is years of evidence > BT> to > >> >> | | >> D> | back this up. > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> D> | How will the old version of Windows just go away? > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> D> | -- > >> >> | | >> D> | Best regards, > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> D> | Bil Green > >> >> | | >> D> | PC 1000 > >> >> | | >> D> | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 > >> >> | | >> D> | 760-924-1000 > >> >> | | PRH> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> D> | Friday, June 11, 2004, 6:22:23 PM, you wrote: > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> | D>> Hmm, never thought about that....shipping. Ok, I'll keep > BT> my > >> >> eyes > >> >> | | PRH> peeled > >> >> | | >> D> for > >> >> | | >> | D>> local sales.... > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> | D>> Damon Brunger > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> | D>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | D>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | D>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | D>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:07 AM > >> >> | | >> | D>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> | D>> | Don't believe everything you read Damon, just do an > BT> upgrade > >> >> to > >> >> | XP > >> >> | | >> D> Home, > >> >> | | >> | D>> | no need to remove or uninstall 98SE, it will go away on > >> BT> it's > >> >> | own. > >> >> | | >> D> Better > >> >> | | >> | D>> | to get the real thing though, not an OEM version made > BT> for > >> >> | Gateway > >> >> | | PRH> or > >> >> | | >> | D>> | Dell. 75 bucks plus 25 shipping is still 100.00, right? > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> | D>> > >> >> | | >> D> > >> >> | | PRH> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> BT> > BT> **************************************************************************** > >> >> | | >> | D>> *************************************** > >> >> | | >> | D>> | Since 1972 > >> >> | | >> | D>> | Jim Myers > >> >> | | >> | D>> | Telrad Electronics > >> >> | | >> | D>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> | D>> | Damon wrote: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Hi Jim, > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> I've got Win 98SE (OEM) and I want to rip it (literally) > >> BT> off > >> >> my > >> >> | | PRH> hard > >> >> | | >> | D>> drive > >> >> | | >> | | >>> and replace it with XP (OEM).....will my old software > BT> I've > >> >> been > >> >> | | PRH> using > >> >> | | >> D> on > >> >> | | >> | D>> 98 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> survive?? (Kazaa, Picture IT, Realplayer, Outlook > BT> Express, > >> >> | | PRH> Internet > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Explorer, etc...) > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> I've got an "Uninstall Win98" button in my Add/Remove > >> BT> program > >> >> | in > >> >> | | >> D> Control > >> >> | | >> | | >>> box.... > >> >> | | >> | | >>> I've been waiting to push it when XP got cheap, alas I > BT> see > >> >> for > >> >> | | $50 > >> >> | | PRH> I > >> >> | | >> D> can > >> >> | | >> | | >>> only get XP Professional or $70 XP Home. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Is XP Home Worth The Extra $20.00??? You said you liked > BT> it > >> >> | | >> | D>> better....more > >> >> | | >> | | >>> toys in the toybox??? If there's better picture and > BT> music > >> >> stuff > >> >> | | PRH> I'd > >> >> | | >> D> go > >> >> | | >> | D>> for > >> >> | | >> | | >>> it... > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Damon Brunger > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Telrad Electronic Services > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:40 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | It is the same, a clean install with an XP upgrade > >> BT> version > >> >> | | works > >> >> | | >> D> just > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | fine as long as you have the required prior version > >> BT> windows > >> >> | | PRH> install > >> >> | | >> | D>> media. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> > >> >> | | >> D> > >> >> | | PRH> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> BT> > BT> **************************************************************************** > >> >> | | >> | | >>> *************************************** > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Since 1972 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Jim Myers > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Telrad Electronics > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Gary McCartney wrote: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > If XP is like previous Windows OS's, then an upgrade > BT> CD > >> >> can > >> >> | | >> D> easily > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install to a clean hard drive. You just have to have > BT> a > >> >> copy > >> >> | | of > >> >> | | >> D> the > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > previous version CD in order to get past a security > >> BT> check > >> >> | as > >> >> | | PRH> the > >> >> | | >> | D>> upgrade > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install is running. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Example: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > To install Win 98SE upgrade on a clean hard drive, > BT> you > >> >> need > >> >> | | to > >> >> | | >> D> have > >> >> | | >> | D>> a > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > copy of Win 98 1st ed. or Win 95 install cd on hand. > >> BT> When > >> >> | the > >> >> | | PRH> win > >> >> | | >> | D>> 98SE > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install asks for confirmation you are an owner of a > >> >> | previous > >> >> | | >> D> Windows > >> >> | | >> | D>> OS, > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > you insert the 98 or 95 CD and it will verify it, > BT> then > >> >> | | PRH> continue > >> >> | | >> D> the > >> >> | | >> | D>> 98SE > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install as if the CD was the full install version. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > I have not tried this with a XP upgrade CD so I am > BT> not > >> >> sure > >> >> | | PRH> that > >> >> | | >> D> it > >> >> | | >> | D>> will > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > work. I seem to recall doing it with a Win 2000 > BT> upgrade > >> >> CD > >> >> | | and > >> >> | | PRH> it > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > worked. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Gary McCartney > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > McCartney Electronics > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Guelph Ontario Canada > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Est. 1984 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > email: gary (at) number63.ca > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Technotronic Dimensions wrote: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Indeed True. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>However, Upgrade installs usually have some kind of > >> >> | | PRH> irreperable > >> >> | | >> | D>> issues > >> >> | | >> | | >>> later > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>because of it not being a clean Install. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>It Parallels the Concept of using Cheap Generic > BT> Repair > >> >> | Parts > >> >> | | PRH> over > >> >> | | >> | | >>> Original > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Parts. You get what you pay for. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Steve Hearns > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:20 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>The upgrade version of both XP and XP is cheaper. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Jim McVey > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>McVey Alltronix > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>327 Broadway > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Newburgh Ny 12550 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>ph: 845 561 8383 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>fx: 845 561 9017 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Consumer electronics & > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>computer service. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Factory authorized for > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>over twenty brands. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:05 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>$329 for XP Pro. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>-Ed- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Tel-Tek Electronics > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Ontario-Canada > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago > BT> I > >> >> paid > >> >> | | $79 > >> >> | | PRH> US > >> >> | | >> D> on > >> >> | | >> | | >>> eBay. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Jerry Silverman > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Greentron Inc > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth > BT> your > >> >> | | effort > >> >> | | >> D> to, > >> >> | | >> | D>> if > >> >> | | >> | | >>> you > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>have > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP > BT> Home > >> >> | | >> D> installed. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>-Ed- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Ontario-Canada > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Yes, I am still running 98. I get that 'Illegal > >> >> | | PRH> operations' > >> >> | | >> | D>> message > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>every so often, but I just ignore it and the > >> BT> computer > >> >> | | PRH> keeps > >> >> | | >> | D>> working > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>fine. I rarely get the BSOD. Is XP 100% > BT> stable? > >> >> | Other > >> >> | | >> D> people > >> >> | | >> | D>> have > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>complained about XP and tell me that if Windows > BT> 98 > >> BT> is > >> >> | | PRH> working > >> >> | | >> | D>> for me > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>to > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>just keep using it. What do you think? > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > BT> Behalf > >> BT> Of > >> >> | | PRH> David > >> >> | | >> | D>> Lessard > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 > BT> Kevin? > >> >> | | PRH> Upgrade > >> >> | | >> D> to > >> >> | | >> | D>> XP. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>No > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you > BT> can > >> >> | close > >> >> | | PRH> down > >> >> | | >> D> a > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>crash > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>application. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > BT> Behalf > >> BT> Of > >> >> | | PRH> Kevin > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because my computer is always doing > >> >> illegal > >> >> | | >> | D>> operations > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>and > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>will be shut down. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because I have high speed cable > >> BT> internet > >> >> | and > >> >> | | a > >> >> | | PRH> 1 > >> >> | | >> D> gig > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>CPU, > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>but sometimes when I connect to the internet it > BT> is > >> >> like > >> >> | I > >> >> | | PRH> am > >> >> | | >> | D>> back on > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>dial-up. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Any more reasons? > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > BT> Behalf > >> BT> Of > >> >> | | PRH> David > >> >> | | >> | D>> Lessard > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin, > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Repeat after me...Computers are my > >> BT> friend...Computers > >> >> | are > >> >> | | PRH> my > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>friend...everything should work just fine > BT> now...:-) > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Alexandria, Ontario > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > BT> Behalf > >> BT> Of > >> >> | | PRH> Tel-Tek > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin; > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>If you hate them, they will know...and do all > BT> kinds > >> >> of > >> >> | | odd > >> >> | | >> | D>> things > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>for > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>you.;-) > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-Ed- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Ontario-Canada > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I hate computers all the time! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin Wilks > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Penticton BC Canada > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > BT> Behalf > >> >> Of > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Jim, > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I have done that. That program is gone, but it > >> BT> came > >> >> | | with > >> >> | | >> | D>> add-ons, > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>that > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>appear to be the problem. I need to know what > >> >> wcpsvsu > >> >> | | PRH> is. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sometimes, I hate computers! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Ken Smith > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >><jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>writes: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Try uninstalling the time check program in > >> BT> windows > >> >> | | PRH> control > >> >> | | >> | D>> panel > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>add/remove programs. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>******************************************************************* * > BT> * > >> >> | | * > >> >> | | PRH> * > >> >> | | >> D> * > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>* > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>****************************************** > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Since 1972 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Jim Myers > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to > BT> do. > >> >> It > >> >> | | PRH> was > >> >> | | >> | D>> "Time > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Check" or > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>something like that. Since then, my computer > >> BT> has > >> >> | been > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>squirley. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>I wish > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I could be more specific, but to be more > >> BT> specific, > >> >> I > >> >> | | PRH> would > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>have > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>to > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>restart and then fool with things to get my > >> >> selected > >> >> | | >> D> programs > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>to > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>appear > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, all > BT> the > >> >> | icons > >> >> | | PRH> on > >> >> | | >> D> my > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>screen > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>disappear. > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I am able to use the computer, but get the > >> BT> message > >> >> | | >> D> "wcpsvsu > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>not > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>responding." Can someone tell me what that > BT> is, > >> >> and > >> >> | a > >> >> | | >> D> remedy > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>for > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>it? > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>TIA, > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Ken Smith > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >>>________________________________________________________________ > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - > >> BT> Juno > >> >> | | >> D> SpeedBand! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to > BT> sign > >> BT> up > >> >> | | PRH> today! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ - > BT> - > >> >> | | - > >> >> | | PRH> - > >> >> | | >> D> - > >> >> | | >> | D>> - > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>---- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Lost Password: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > >> >> | | PRH> Problems?". > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Email Archives: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ - > BT> - > >> >> | | - > >> >> | | PRH> - > >> >> | | >> D> - > >> >> | | >> | D>> - > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>---- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Lost Password: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > >> >> | | PRH> Problems?". > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Email Archives: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | > >> >> | | > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________ > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - > BT> Juno > >> >> | | >> D> SpeedBand! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign > BT> up > >> >> | | today! > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ - > BT> - > >> >> | | - > >> >> | | PRH> - > >> >> | | >> D> - > >> >> | | >> | D>> - > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > >> >> | | Problems?". > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ - > BT> - > >> >> | | - > >> >> | | PRH> - > >> >> | | >> D> - > >> >> | | >> | D>> - > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>--- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > >> >> | | Problems?". > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ - > BT> - > >> >> | | - > >> >> | | PRH> - > >> >> | | >> D> - > >> >> | | >> | D>> - > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login > >> >> | Problems?". > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives: > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> > >> >> | | >> | D>> | > >> >> | | >> D> | > >> >> | | >> > >> >> | | > >> >> | > >> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------ - 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