Barry, That sounds like a plan. I keep my main drive cloned to a second drive (cloning a partition if it changes much), then pull the drive out of the rack mount (in case of lightning or severe power surge). I would like to have it set up like yours, so the second drive could boot up (to test it) without having to pull the cables off of the main drive. Is this what you have? Boot menus are often added to the first sector of the hard drive (like an installed program). I keep 98 on an old drive just in case I need to run a program which only works with 98 (no sense in having it on a 40G hard drive). Having a backup of your newest system is what's really important. -- Best regards, Bil Green PC 1000 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx Wednesday, June 16, 2004, 7:07:44 AM, you wrote: BT> Hi Bil: I have just installed XP pro and keeping my win 98 on a second HD BT> installed as master on the secondary Ide.This way I can drag my uninstalled BT> programs and reinstall in XP and slowly build XP.I have a boot menu in my BT> bios which makes it easy.I had trouble with my asus v7100 tuner combo BT> card,it was sluggish and wouldn't install my second monitor for video out, BT> the reason being it doesn't have a second generic pci display driver to BT> install.I installed a ATI radeon 7500 64 meg and with video out and works BT> ok. BT> barrystv@xxxxxxx BT> Barrys TV BT> Ottawa Canada BT> ----- Original Message ----- BT> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> BT> To: "Barry Thompson" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> BT> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:14 AM BT> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> Hi Barry, >> >> No need to remove a DOS partition when installing 2000 or XP >> >> You don't have to install XP using the NTFS file system. You can >> select FAT32 during the install (not as good though). And if you >> do select NTFS the CD will convert the existing file system for >> you (or maybe that's just if you format, I forgot). >> >> You can always covert later too: >> >> Just go to RUN, type CMD (Enter) and execute the command: >> convert c: /fs:ntfs (space on both sides of c:) >> >> Walk away for a while and when you come back, but you finally >> have NTFS >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Bil Green >> PC 1000 >> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 >> 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 11:11:13 PM, you wrote: >> >> BT> That is a roll Back from a previous install, in order to install XP BT> you have >> BT> to remove the dos partition.I don't think ntfs will recognize a dos >> BT> partition, so you will have to use fdisk and then boot from the cd and >> BT> install a ntfs partition, >> BT> barrystv@xxxxxxx >> BT> Barrys TV >> BT> Ottawa Canada >> BT> ----- Original Message ----- >> BT> From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> BT> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> BT> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:02 AM >> BT> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> >> >> Well, there is a "Remove Win 98" in my add/remove program in Control >> BT> Panel, >> >> and this is the only OS that has been on this computer.....I suspect BT> that >> BT> I >> >> could press that, remove 98, re-install XP and hopefully no hidden BT> garbage >> >> will be left over...other than that I could gather up all my software BT> CD's >> BT> I >> >> use, and see whats left of the software on my HD and copy to CD rom BT> before >> >> reformatting....which to me is NEXT to Impossible to get all the files >> >> needed for each program. >> >> >> >> Sometimes I wish the installed programs would be easier to identify BT> each >> >> file it installed.....remember copy C: *.exe?? or bat?? and good ol' >> BT> *.* >> >> ?? >> >> >> >> Damon Brunger >> >> Telrad Electronic Services >> >> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 3:25 PM >> >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> >> >> >> >> | Damon, >> >> | A clean install involves wiping your hard drive and installing..this BT> is >> >> what they are referring to. >> >> | So you can get a clean install by using an upgrade CD, if you wipe BT> your >> >> hard drive. >> >> | Even is you use the full version, if you do not wipe your hard drive, >> BT> this >> >> would not be a clean install. >> >> | Jeff >> >> | -- >> >> | Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair >> >> | 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 >> >> | 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 >> >> | www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net >> >> | ----- Original Message ----- >> >> | From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:39 AM >> >> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | Ok folks, I apologize to Bil Green for reading way too much into his >> >> | statement: >> >> | "All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to >> >> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice" >> >> | >> >> | I see after this conversation that he was speaking of installation >> >> | procedures and not of the software quality. But as I leave this >> >> | conversation....lettuce agree that words have power...and BT> constructing >> >> these >> >> | words can certainly bring us problems if we do not carefully select BT> the >> >> | words to use.....May be I would have said: >> >> | >> >> | "All the pro's seem to agree that an installation upgrade from Win98 BT> or >> BT> Me >> >> | to >> >> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. A clean install is better." >> >> | >> >> | Or better yet: >> >> | >> >> | A clean install is the preferred method for most pro's if you choose BT> to >> >> | upgrade to XP.....(note the extra space left unused by this BT> nitpicker). >> >> | >> >> | Damon Brunger >> >> | Telrad Electronic Services >> >> | Ft Wayne, IN 46815 >> >> | >> >> | ----- Original Message ----- >> >> | From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:48 PM >> >> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | | I like the way you put that Bill! >> >> | | I second that! >> >> | | Philip, I must disagree with you though. >> >> | | I do not think any one should be banned. >> >> | | Sometimes it takes a grain of salt, sometimes a pound. >> >> | | But think of it, where would this world be without watchdogs? >(;o) >> >> | | >> >> | | Ty >> >> | | >> >> | | Tiberius Kraemer >> >> | | BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS >> >> | | 3312 Silverton Rd. NE >> >> | | Salem, Oregon >> >> | | Phone: 503 391 1491 >> >> | | Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> >> | | >> >> | | >> >> | | -----Original Message----- >> >> | | From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bil Green >> >> | | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 1:32 PM >> >> | | To: Phillip R. Hull >> >> | | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> >> | | >> >> | | Thanks Phillip, >> >> | | >> >> | | Most of the guys are just fine. There's bound to be a wise guy or >> >> | | just someone who has to nit pick in every bunch. At least they >> >> | | can't stop us from giving good advice, which still reaches the >> >> | | group. >> >> | | >> >> | | -- >> >> | | Best regards, >> >> | | >> >> | | Bil Green >> >> | | PC 1000 >> >> | | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 >> >> | | 760-924-1000 >> BT> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> >> | | Monday, June 14, 2004, 7:02:13 AM, you wrote: >> >> | | >> >> | | PRH> It seems like people like to cut you down, no matter what you >> BT> post >> >> | | because >> >> | | PRH> their idea is always better than yours or they have to nit BT> pick >> >> every >> >> | | word >> >> | | PRH> you use and take your post apart and make you look bad. I BT> think >> >> | anyone >> >> | | that >> >> | | PRH> does this should be banned from this group. >> >> | | >> >> | | PRH> Phillip R Hull STET >> >> | | PRH> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | PRH> FAX 517--569-3075 >> >> | | PRH> Professional Technicians only >> >> | | PRH> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> >> | | >> >> | | >> I didn't say that all the pro agree with ME. I said: "All the >> BT> pro's >> >> | | >> seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to 2000 or XP is a >> BT> very >> >> | | >> poor choice." I should have said that MOST of the pro's... And BT> it >> >> | | >> appears that upgrading to 2000 causes more problems than XP. >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> There are 2 meanings to the word upgrade. When you upgrade your BT> PC >> >> with >> >> | | >> a better motherboard you don't keep the old motherboard in the >> >> system. >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> But when you upgrade from Windows 98 to XP by using the XP BT> upgrade >> BT> CD >> >> | | >> it not the same as a clean install. Apparently with XP it goes >> >> | | >> smoother than with Me or 2000, but it's still better to do a BT> fresh >> >> | | >> install. You can always try it and see how it goes. >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> The last thing I would ever do is format (no need if you know BT> how >> BT> to >> >> | | >> delete the folders "Windows" and "Program Files" (and all >> BT> unnecessary >> >> | | >> files and folders under C:). This way you can keep your personal >> >> | | >> folders and files when doing a fresh install (and it will be >> BT> totally >> >> | | >> fresh). >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> -- >> >> | | >> Best regards, >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> Bil Green >> >> | | >> PC 1000 >> >> | | >> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 >> >> | | >> 760-924-1000 >> >> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:33:28 AM, you wrote: >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> D> Wait a minute....THAT IS NOT WHAT I PERCIEVED..... >> >> | | >> D> I read that XP is good.....real good to upgrade to.... >> >> | | >> D> (NT wrapped in a pretty wrapper) >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> D> So what happened to you with XP?? >> >> | | >> D> BTW "all the pro's"?? agree with you?? >> >> | | >> D> Did I miss something here??? >> >> | | >> D> WE NEED AN OFFICIAL POLL.....and I'm just the one to do it. >> >> | | >> D> Fill in your initials like this: (thanks guys) >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> D> Love it >> >> | | >> D> V db jrm (plenty of room on this side guys........) >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> Hate it (CPU below 500MHZ/3Gig HD or less) >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> Hate it (CPU below 1.0 GHz/10Gig HD or less) >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> Hate it......I just hate it.....I tried to install it, but I >> BT> just >> >> | hate >> >> | | PRH> it. >> >> | | >> D> Hate, Hate Hate Hate Hate. I'd do awful things to it if it BT> were >> BT> a >> >> | | PRH> girl..... >> >> | >> >> | | >> D> V >> >> | | >> D> (Thanks guys) >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> D> Damon Brunger >> >> | | >> D> Telrad Electronic Services >> >> | | >> D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> D> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> D> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> D> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> D> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:27 AM >> >> | | >> D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> D> | All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me BT> to >> >> | | >> D> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. The various errors and BT> file >> >> | | >> D> | corruption will still be there. There is years of evidence BT> to >> >> | | >> D> | back this up. >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> D> | How will the old version of Windows just go away? >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> D> | -- >> >> | | >> D> | Best regards, >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> D> | Bil Green >> >> | | >> D> | PC 1000 >> >> | | >> D> | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 >> >> | | >> D> | 760-924-1000 >> >> | | PRH> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> D> | Friday, June 11, 2004, 6:22:23 PM, you wrote: >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> | D>> Hmm, never thought about that....shipping. Ok, I'll keep BT> my >> >> eyes >> >> | | PRH> peeled >> >> | | >> D> for >> >> | | >> | D>> local sales.... >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> | D>> Damon Brunger >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> | D>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | D>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | D>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | D>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:07 AM >> >> | | >> | D>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> | D>> | Don't believe everything you read Damon, just do an BT> upgrade >> >> to >> >> | XP >> >> | | >> D> Home, >> >> | | >> | D>> | no need to remove or uninstall 98SE, it will go away on >> BT> it's >> >> | own. >> >> | | >> D> Better >> >> | | >> | D>> | to get the real thing though, not an OEM version made BT> for >> >> | Gateway >> >> | | PRH> or >> >> | | >> | D>> | Dell. 75 bucks plus 25 shipping is still 100.00, right? >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> | D>> >> >> | | >> D> >> >> | | PRH> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> BT> BT> **************************************************************************** >> >> | | >> | D>> *************************************** >> >> | | >> | D>> | Since 1972 >> >> | | >> | D>> | Jim Myers >> >> | | >> | D>> | Telrad Electronics >> >> | | >> | D>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> | D>> | Damon wrote: >> >> | | >> | | >>> Hi Jim, >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> I've got Win 98SE (OEM) and I want to rip it (literally) >> BT> off >> >> my >> >> | | PRH> hard >> >> | | >> | D>> drive >> >> | | >> | | >>> and replace it with XP (OEM).....will my old software BT> I've >> >> been >> >> | | PRH> using >> >> | | >> D> on >> >> | | >> | D>> 98 >> >> | | >> | | >>> survive?? (Kazaa, Picture IT, Realplayer, Outlook BT> Express, >> >> | | PRH> Internet >> >> | | >> | | >>> Explorer, etc...) >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> I've got an "Uninstall Win98" button in my Add/Remove >> BT> program >> >> | in >> >> | | >> D> Control >> >> | | >> | | >>> box.... >> >> | | >> | | >>> I've been waiting to push it when XP got cheap, alas I BT> see >> >> for >> >> | | $50 >> >> | | PRH> I >> >> | | >> D> can >> >> | | >> | | >>> only get XP Professional or $70 XP Home. >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> Is XP Home Worth The Extra $20.00??? You said you liked BT> it >> >> | | >> | D>> better....more >> >> | | >> | | >>> toys in the toybox??? If there's better picture and BT> music >> >> stuff >> >> | | PRH> I'd >> >> | | >> D> go >> >> | | >> | D>> for >> >> | | >> | | >>> it... >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> Damon Brunger >> >> | | >> | | >>> Telrad Electronic Services >> >> | | >> | | >>> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 >> >> | | >> | | >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:40 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | It is the same, a clean install with an XP upgrade >> BT> version >> >> | | works >> >> | | >> D> just >> >> | | >> | | >>> | fine as long as you have the required prior version >> BT> windows >> >> | | PRH> install >> >> | | >> | D>> media. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> >> >> | | >> D> >> >> | | PRH> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> BT> BT> **************************************************************************** >> >> | | >> | | >>> *************************************** >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Since 1972 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Jim Myers >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Telrad Electronics >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> | Gary McCartney wrote: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > If XP is like previous Windows OS's, then an upgrade BT> CD >> >> can >> >> | | >> D> easily >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install to a clean hard drive. You just have to have BT> a >> >> copy >> >> | | of >> >> | | >> D> the >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > previous version CD in order to get past a security >> BT> check >> >> | as >> >> | | PRH> the >> >> | | >> | D>> upgrade >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install is running. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Example: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > To install Win 98SE upgrade on a clean hard drive, BT> you >> >> need >> >> | | to >> >> | | >> D> have >> >> | | >> | D>> a >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > copy of Win 98 1st ed. or Win 95 install cd on hand. >> BT> When >> >> | the >> >> | | PRH> win >> >> | | >> | D>> 98SE >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install asks for confirmation you are an owner of a >> >> | previous >> >> | | >> D> Windows >> >> | | >> | D>> OS, >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > you insert the 98 or 95 CD and it will verify it, BT> then >> >> | | PRH> continue >> >> | | >> D> the >> >> | | >> | D>> 98SE >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > install as if the CD was the full install version. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > I have not tried this with a XP upgrade CD so I am BT> not >> >> sure >> >> | | PRH> that >> >> | | >> D> it >> >> | | >> | D>> will >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > work. I seem to recall doing it with a Win 2000 BT> upgrade >> >> CD >> >> | | and >> >> | | PRH> it >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > worked. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Gary McCartney >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > McCartney Electronics >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Guelph Ontario Canada >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Est. 1984 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > email: gary (at) number63.ca >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > Technotronic Dimensions wrote: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | > >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Indeed True. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>However, Upgrade installs usually have some kind of >> >> | | PRH> irreperable >> >> | | >> | D>> issues >> >> | | >> | | >>> later >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>because of it not being a clean Install. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>It Parallels the Concept of using Cheap Generic BT> Repair >> >> | Parts >> >> | | PRH> over >> >> | | >> | | >>> Original >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Parts. You get what you pay for. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Steve Hearns >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:20 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>The upgrade version of both XP and XP is cheaper. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Jim McVey >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>McVey Alltronix >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>327 Broadway >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Newburgh Ny 12550 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>ph: 845 561 8383 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>fx: 845 561 9017 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Consumer electronics & >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>computer service. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Factory authorized for >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>over twenty brands. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:05 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>$329 for XP Pro. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>-Ed- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Tel-Tek Electronics >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Ontario-Canada >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago BT> I >> >> paid >> >> | | $79 >> >> | | PRH> US >> >> | | >> D> on >> >> | | >> | | >>> eBay. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Jerry Silverman >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Greentron Inc >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth BT> your >> >> | | effort >> >> | | >> D> to, >> >> | | >> | D>> if >> >> | | >> | | >>> you >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>have >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP BT> Home >> >> | | >> D> installed. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>-Ed- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Ontario-Canada >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Yes, I am still running 98. I get that 'Illegal >> >> | | PRH> operations' >> >> | | >> | D>> message >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>every so often, but I just ignore it and the >> BT> computer >> >> | | PRH> keeps >> >> | | >> | D>> working >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>fine. I rarely get the BSOD. Is XP 100% BT> stable? >> >> | Other >> >> | | >> D> people >> >> | | >> | D>> have >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>complained about XP and tell me that if Windows BT> 98 >> BT> is >> >> | | PRH> working >> >> | | >> | D>> for me >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>to >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>just keep using it. What do you think? >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BT> Behalf >> BT> Of >> >> | | PRH> David >> >> | | >> | D>> Lessard >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 BT> Kevin? >> >> | | PRH> Upgrade >> >> | | >> D> to >> >> | | >> | D>> XP. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>No >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you BT> can >> >> | close >> >> | | PRH> down >> >> | | >> D> a >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>crash >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>application. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BT> Behalf >> BT> Of >> >> | | PRH> Kevin >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because my computer is always doing >> >> illegal >> >> | | >> | D>> operations >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>and >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>will be shut down. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because I have high speed cable >> BT> internet >> >> | and >> >> | | a >> >> | | PRH> 1 >> >> | | >> D> gig >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>CPU, >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>but sometimes when I connect to the internet it BT> is >> >> like >> >> | I >> >> | | PRH> am >> >> | | >> | D>> back on >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>dial-up. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Any more reasons? >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BT> Behalf >> BT> Of >> >> | | PRH> David >> >> | | >> | D>> Lessard >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin, >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Repeat after me...Computers are my >> BT> friend...Computers >> >> | are >> >> | | PRH> my >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>friend...everything should work just fine BT> now...:-) >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Alexandria, Ontario >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BT> Behalf >> BT> Of >> >> | | PRH> Tel-Tek >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin; >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>If you hate them, they will know...and do all BT> kinds >> >> of >> >> | | odd >> >> | | >> | D>> things >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>for >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>you.;-) >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-Ed- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Ontario-Canada >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I hate computers all the time! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin Wilks >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Penticton BC Canada >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BT> Behalf >> >> Of >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Jim, >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I have done that. That program is gone, but it >> BT> came >> >> | | with >> >> | | >> | D>> add-ons, >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>that >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>appear to be the problem. I need to know what >> >> wcpsvsu >> >> | | PRH> is. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sometimes, I hate computers! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Ken Smith >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >><jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>writes: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Try uninstalling the time check program in >> BT> windows >> >> | | PRH> control >> >> | | >> | D>> panel >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>add/remove programs. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>******************************************************************** BT> * >> >> | | * >> >> | | PRH> * >> >> | | >> D> * >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>* >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>****************************************** >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Since 1972 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Jim Myers >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to BT> do. >> >> It >> >> | | PRH> was >> >> | | >> | D>> "Time >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Check" or >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>something like that. Since then, my computer >> BT> has >> >> | been >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>squirley. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>I wish >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I could be more specific, but to be more >> BT> specific, >> >> I >> >> | | PRH> would >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>have >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>to >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>restart and then fool with things to get my >> >> selected >> >> | | >> D> programs >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>to >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>appear >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, all BT> the >> >> | icons >> >> | | PRH> on >> >> | | >> D> my >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>screen >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>disappear. >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I am able to use the computer, but get the >> BT> message >> >> | | >> D> "wcpsvsu >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>not >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>responding." Can someone tell me what that BT> is, >> >> and >> >> | a >> >> | | >> D> remedy >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>for >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>it? >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>TIA, >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Ken Smith >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >>>________________________________________________________________ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - >> BT> Juno >> >> | | >> D> SpeedBand! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to BT> sign >> BT> up >> >> | | PRH> today! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>---- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | | PRH> Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>---- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | | PRH> Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | >> >> | | >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - BT> Juno >> >> | | >> D> SpeedBand! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign BT> up >> >> | | today! >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>-- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>--- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>--- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>--- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> | Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>--- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - >> >> | | - >> >> | | PRH> - >> >> | | >> D> - >> >> | | >> | D>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | | >>> - >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>--- >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Lost Password: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login >> >> Problems?". >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>Email Archives: >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> >> | | >> | | >>> | >> >> | | >> | | >>> >> >> | | >> | D>> | >> >> | | >> D> | >> >> | | >> >> >> | | >> >> | >> >> >> >>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- BT> - 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