[TechAssist] Re: 220v: End of Discussion
- From: Joe Batchelor <jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:27:35 -0600
If you have doubts, you can measure the current.
Hold one lead of an AC current meter in one hand and
make a circuit with the other lead. You may need someone
else to read the meter as you may not live long enough to
tell us how much more the 220 pulls.
Joe Batchelor CET TX-80
12/21/02 2:12:58 PM, "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>Could you measure the R and give us the number so we can calculate the
>current?
>Jerry Silverman
>Greentron Inc
>4 Newland Ave
>Greenville SC 29609
>864 232 3889
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Batchelor" <jbc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 10:02 AM
>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v: End of Discussion
>
>
>>
>> If the voltage is higher the current will be higher. I = E / R
>>
>> Joe Batchelor CET TX-80
>>
>> 12/21/02 7:16:08 AM, "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > . . . Again I have to come back shocked at the lack of knowledge
>displayed by some. . . . .
>> > Oh dear what did they teach you at school. . . . .
>> >> Voltage does not kill current does. It follows if the voltage is higher
>the current will be lower.
>> >>. . . .
>>
>>
>> >>On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 01:01:27
>> >> Electric Medic wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>Art:
>> >>>
>> >>>I think you know what I mean. I said 220vac, but 240vac was what I
>meant. I
>> >>>just followed the "Voltage" quoted in the subject line of the thread,
>which
>> >>>I did not start. And many layman call 110 for short I guess. Picking on
>> >>>close numbers just stirs controversy. But to keep it "Exact" we will
>say
>> >>>240. But even you should have got the jest. I did not know the fellow
>was
>> >>>from the West Indies since I started seeing this thread after the
>subject
>> >>>line was changed twice. I do have a question for you: Are you the
>"Great
>> >>>One" that must decide when a thread ends. We are all here to learn and
>help
>> >>>each other and I have tried to help many over the years on this and
>other
>> >>>forums. I have the Thank Yous in my inbox to prove it. I resent the few
>on
>> >>>here that feel the need to disrupt that with striking out against
>another.
>> >>>Whom decides what is interesting to a huge membership as this, just
>you?
>> >>>Please.
>> >>>
>> >>>Perry Bower
>> >>>Electric Medic
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>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of art bevilacqua
>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:44 PM
>> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v: End of Discussion
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Perry, you do not have 220 coming into your house. The nominal United
>> >>>States Standard distribution voltage for single phase power is 120/240
>> >>>Vac (120 Line to Neutral, 240 Line to Line). Look at the rating on your
>> >>>breaker panel, or check your copy of the National Electrical Code to
>> >>>confirm this.
>> >>>
>> >>>If you measure the voltage with your volt meter, you will likely see
>> >>>something either less than or greater than 120, the code also specifies
>> >>>an allowable range that the utility must stay within.
>> >>>
>> >>>Many other countries use 200 volt range supplies, here is a site that
>> >>>lists many of them, and gives the types of connectors commonly in use.
>> >>>
>> >>>http://kropla.com/electric2.htm
>> >>>
>> >>>If you look back at the original question, the person having the
>problem
>> >>>lives in the West Indies. West Indies doesn't appear in the web site
>> >>>referenced, but given the popularity of 220 Vac around the world,
>that's
>> >>>probably what he's got.=20
>> >>>
>> >>>As far as equipment, many devices are able to handle multiple voltages.
>> >>>Older equipment, stereos etc, had jumpers to reconfigure the supply
>> >>>connection to the primary of the power transformer.
>> >>>
>> >>>Newer stuff with switching supplies can vary their pulse widths to
>> >>>accommodate the higher input voltages. The limit would be the ratings
>of
>> >>>input diodes, caps, etc. but if the manufacture rated his stuff for
>> >>>100-240, he'd have the world licked.
>> >>>
>> >>>And sure enough, just for laughs, I've just looked at the five monitors
>> >>>in my office (1 sceptre, 2 HP's, 1 Panasonic, and 1 NEC) and every one
>> >>>of them has an input rating of 100-240 Vac, 50/60 Hz, making them
>> >>>saleable throughout the world.
>> >>>
>> >>>I hope this will solve the mystery once and for all.
>> >>>
>> >>>Later, art
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Art Bevilacqua
>> >>>Essex Radio and TV
>> >>>40 Main Street
>> >>>Essex, MA 01929
>> >>>abevilac@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Electric Medic
>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:48 PM
>> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Yeah, we have 220 coming to our house, one 110 on one side of breaker
>> >>>box,
>> >>>and another 110 on the other side. I wired a special 220v outlet to my
>> >>>building outside. But in the tens of thousands of TV's that I have
>> >>>fixed, I
>> >>>have never had any customer that lived in the states say he used 220v
>on
>> >>>his
>> >>>TV. I don't know or care what they use overseas. I still can not figure
>> >>>out
>> >>>why anybody in the states would use 220v on a TV, and how they would
>> >>>even
>> >>>plug it in. I know the manual says this chassis will work on 220v, but
>> >>>why
>> >>>in the states? I am still confused about the member that says the
>CTC187
>> >>>works fine on 110v but hums on 220v. I have not seen it answered does
>he
>> >>>live in the states or overseas? Does he have two power cords or are
>they
>> >>>running 220v to a standard 110 outlet. I do not think I saw this
>> >>>addressed,
>> >>>or I missed many post.
>> >>>
>> >>>Perry
>> >>>Electric Medic
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jeff Dougherty
>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:00 PM
>> >>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Now wait...don't we all have 220 coming in to our homes now?
>> >>>If you have an electric range, it requires 220...two hots and a
>neutral.
>> >>>110vac is distributed to the rest of the wiring.
>> >>>This may be a little off topic for this list, but I still believe it to
>> >>>be
>> >>>an
>> >>>interesting topic...as well as a learning one.
>> >>>In-other-words, doesn't the step-down transformer send 220 to our
>> >>>panels?
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>> >>>
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 6:52 AM
>> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>This really doesn't make economical sense, tri-phase systems in
>> >>>residential
>> >>>areas??
>> >>>
>> >>>REALITY: 2 wires provide power, the only difference is the transformer
>> >>>setup
>> >>>that drops down the power to your home. In the land of 110 our
>> >>>transformer
>> >>>outputs 220V with a center tap that delivers 2 - 110V supplies or 1 -
>> >>>220V
>> >>>supply. (Hey, isn't that sweet....3 supplies in one, eh?).
>> >>>
>> >>>As for the european 220V supply system......I can only guess, but you
>do
>> >>>not
>> >>>have that Center-tap. And I really doubt that the electric company is
>> >>>going
>> >>>to use 2 wires for power, then strap on a 3rd wire for grounding
>> >>>purposes
>> >>>(what purpose would that serve, except to reference the metal toaster
>> >>>casing
>> >>>to your bathtub water??). I'm sure the 220V tranformers have no
>> >>>practical
>> >>>need for earth ground, since all the electronics would behave as though
>> >>>they
>> >>>had an "Isolation transformer" on them. (That's the stepdown
>> >>>transformer...outside your home).
>> >>>
>> >>>Personally, I've heard that 110V is more dangerous than 220V......but I
>> >>>don't see that as a logical argument...What.....110 has less voltage,
>> >>>therefore we enjoy holding onto it longer, thus toasting us, but not
>the
>> >>>europeans????
>> >>>If anybody has an answer to why 220 is safer than 110.... I'm
>listening.
>> >>>
>> >>>And that TRI-PHASE residential power supply??? Man, that is a load of
>> >>>hooey....of course, the government planners weren't reaching into their
>> >>>pockets, so I can assume they tapped into your dad's or grandad's
>> >>>wallet??
>> >>>
>> >>>Damon Brunger
>> >>>damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Telrad Electronic Services
>> >>>Ft Wayne, IN 46815
>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>From: "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>> >>><techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:29 AM
>> >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Villy Boor
>> >>>> Boorelec Durban
>> >>>> I have to come back with a post script, To get voltage for a TV at
>> >>>over
>> >>>200V would require you to use a transformer. I am sure there could be
>> >>>other
>> >>>methods using odd switching type devices but extremes of design like
>> >>>that
>> >>>would be nonsense as it would be cheaper to get the correct model. I
>can
>> >>>not
>> >>>see where the smoke would be derived if you stuck this on your TV as I
>> >>>am at
>> >>>a loss as to how you would hook it up.
>> >>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:59:10
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:59:10
>> >>>> Vilhelm Boor wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Villy Boor
>> >>>> > Boorelec Durban
>> >>>> > I am shocked that I know more about your power supplies in North
>> >>>America than seemingly you its residents do. North America works on
>110V
>> >>>and
>> >>>you are stuck with that, tough its not as safe and losses are greater.
>> >>>Now
>> >>>you have a situation where you wish more voltage, you have to cheat The
>> >>>mains supply is 3 phase, it is usual to run a line down a street and
>try
>> >>>to
>> >>>balance the power by having house 1 on phase 1 house 2 on phase 2 etc.
>> >>>To
>> >>>get 220V you have to cheat, you use 2 phases so a plug has 2 live's.
>But
>> >>>why
>> >>>in the name of Freddy would we have to do that. Options on the back of
>> >>>TVs
>> >>>have gone, that requires you have a mains transformer, costs money is a
>> >>>no
>> >>>no. American TV is only viewable in America and a few other countries,
>> >>>the
>> >>>rest of us use the PAL system a much later and superior system, it
>> >>>follows
>> >>>then there is no requirement for your sets to work here or X. No we
>have
>> >>>standard 3 pin plugs (flat Pins pointing at 10 and 2 with an unused
>> >>>earth at
>> >>>6) nominal fuse volt
>> >>>> a
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > ge
>> >>>> > is 4A and there is no mystery
>> >>>> >--
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:54:26
>> >>>> > Julian Panizo wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>In the countries with 220-240 V many sets have the 110 V option via
>> >>>switch
>> >>>> >>and a few have the voltage change automatic. The household wiring
>is
>> >>>two
>> >>>(2)
>> >>>> >>conductors, normally one hot and the other neutral, derived from a
>> >>>street
>> >>>> >>trifasic supply. In a few countries you get in some places 220 and
>> >>>others
>> >>>> >>110.
>> >>>> >>Julian
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>Julian Panizo
>> >>>> >>C.C. 1867 Asunci=F3n Paraguay
>> >>>> >>Phone/Fax 595 21 601913
>> >>>> >>panizo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> >>From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> >>Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:41 PM
>> >>>> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> We STILL have not answered the QUESTION. Does this guys set work
>> >>>on
>> >>>> >>> 220volts. He said the set worked on 110v but not properly on
>220v.
>> >>>I
>> >>>can
>> >>>> >>not
>> >>>> >>> believe that the set was designed to work on 220v using the same
>> >>>power
>> >>>> >>cord
>> >>>> >>> that came with the set. Every 220v circuit I have seen here in
>the
>> >>>states
>> >>>> >>> has a different cord (larger plug) with two hots. Is this some
>> >>>special
>> >>>> >>> CTC187AD. I think this is important enough to answer. We all know
>> >>>that
>> >>>220
>> >>>> >>> has to hots and a neutral, and 110 has one hot and a neutral. I
>am
>> >>>> >>> interested how in the world he is plugging a CTC187 into a 220v
>> >>>outlet.
>> >>>> >>> Please someone, or the owner of the set EXPLAIN. Everyone that I
>> >>>have
>> >>>seen
>> >>>> >>> will smoke if you apply 220v. This is driving me crazy. Why would
>> >>>anyone
>> >>>> >>> want to run his set on both 110v and 220v anyway? It seems to me
>> >>>if it
>> >>>> >>> worked on 110v, that should be good enough. Very confused here in
>> >>>Georgia.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Perry Bower
>> >>>> >>> Electric Medic
>> >>>> >>> "It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
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>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> >>> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> >>> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry E.
>> >>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:11 PM
>> >>>> >>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Tommy, their talking about European tv sets not North American
>> >>>> >>> Larry Eastman
>> >>>> >>> American TV & Electronics
>> >>>> >>> Crystal River, Fl. 34428
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> > Guys...I really don't know what you mean when you talk abut a
>TV
>> >>>using
>> >>>> >>> 220v.
>> >>>> >>> > On a 120v line you have a hot side and a neutral (0 volts)
>side.
>> >>>On
>> >>>a
>> >>>> >>240
>> >>>> >>> > line you have two hot sides.....believe me it will let the
>smoke
>> >>>out
>> >>>of
>> >>>> >>> yur
>> >>>> >>> > power supply filters.
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Tommy Herman
>> >>>> >>> > Herman TV
>> >>>> >>> > 250 School Ave SW
>> >>>> >>> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
>> >>>> >>> > 828-632-5322 Voice
>> >>>> >>> > 828-632-3880 Fax
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > If a TV requires 120 Watts of power, you could power it with
>> >>>120V, 1
>> >>>Amp
>> >>>> >>> > or 240V, 0.5A.
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Gary McCartney
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > McCartney Electronics
>> >>>> >>> > 7134 Fife Rd, RR 7
>> >>>> >>> > Guelph Ontario Canada N1H 6J4
>> >>>> >>> > Fax: (519)821-1530
>> >>>> >>> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> >>Dear Villy,
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>Most of us know that formula as P =3D IE. Since current is
>> >>>directly
>> >>>> >>> >>proportional to voltage ( I =3D E/R), an increase in voltage
>> >>>yields a
>> >>>> >>> >>corresponding increase in current with R held constant. If
>> >>>current
>> >>>and
>> >>>> >>> >>voltage are both doubled, power is increased by a factor of 4.
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>If I'm wrong, please set me straight.
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>Regards,
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>Ken Smith
>> >>>> >>> >>Gulf Technical Services
>> >>>> >>> >>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
>> >>>> >>> >>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563
>> >>>> >>> >>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:03:37 0000 "Vilhelm Boor"
>> >>><villyboor@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> >>> >>writes:
>> >>>> >>> >>
>> >>>> >>> >>>Villy boor
>> >>>> >>> >>> Boorelec Durban
>> >>>> >>> >>> When I read some of this I am rather surprised, where were
>> >>>some of
>> >>>> >>> >>>you trained, what happened to Ohms law? Why 2 round prongs.
>> >>>Most
>> >>>> >>> >>>countries use various combinations of flat pin at various
>> >>>angles,
>> >>>> >>> >>>Round pins tended to have a bakelite body.
>> >>>> >>> >>> But please remember W=3DIV so the greater V is the less I =
>> >>>will
>> >>>be
>> >>>so
>> >>>> >>> >>>cables are lighter, plugs can be smaller and fuses lower I.
>> >>>Philips
>> >>>> >>> >>>for example make a wide range of TV with an input requirement
>> >>>of
>> >>>> >>> >>>from 90V to 270V, just plug it in and its working. I am
>> >>>sometimes
>> >>>> >>> >>>left speechless, this is your subject and livlihood, you must
>> >>>know
>> >>>> >>> >>>basics.
>> >>>> >>> >>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:43:29
>> >>>> >>> >>> teltek2 wrote:
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>>No...Their 220 does not requite a huge plug like your
>> >>>dryer..just
>> >>>2
>> >>>> >>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>> >>>round
>> >>>> >>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > Tommy Herman
>> >>>> >>> > Herman TV
>> >>>> >>> > 250 School Ave SW
>> >>>> >>> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681
>> >>>> >>> > 828-632-5322 Voice
>> >>>> >>> > 828-632-3880 Fax
>> >>>> >>> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> >>>> >>> --
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