[TechAssist] Re: 1 pound roll solder, 50 feet of chem wick

From: daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:53:46 -0600
I have to agree with Ken about the life of solder wick.  I found a way to m=
ake use of the wick that no longer works well.  I use liquid flux from GC o=
n the solder wick.  Even after the flux dries, it still works well.
Daryl
Daryl's TV
2402 Wyoming Ave.
El Paso, TX  79903
915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv

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From: gulftech@xxxxxxxx
To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 1 pound roll solder, 50 feet of chem wick
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:30:31 -0500

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> My apologies to those of you who are getting tired of this thread.
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> John reminded me of a point I want to make.
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> First, all solder wick is not created equal.  I have had some rolls that
> just wouldn't work.  I have had the best luck with Techspray No-clean,
> but some rolls of the same brand are better than others.
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> Second, wick has a limited life.  Did you wonder why wick comes in a
> vacuum-sealed bag?  That is done to lessen oxidation of the copper.  Once
> oxidided, the wick is almost worthless.  I once bought 50 5-ft rolls from
> a distributor at what I thought was a great price.  It was so poor that I
> threw almost all of it into the garbage.
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> Third, it may be better to get rolls of 25' than 50 or 100.  It depends
> on how much you use.  (Wayne could probably do with the smallest
> available!)  Once the package is opened, the rate of oxidation increases,
> so you end up thinking mean, nasty things about the distributor you
> bought it from thinking they sold you garbage.  For that reason, I only
> open one roll at a time, and roll out 10 feet at a time to other techs in
> the shop.  Also, helps me keep track of wasteful usage.  I can understand
> Perry's situation of working in the home, where desolding stations or
> desoldering irons are impractical, but I cringe when I see a tech waste
> five feet of wick on a flyback.  Yes, I tend to micromanage!
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> Now, if someone has ideas on the best brand of wick, I'd be interested...
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> Regards,
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> Ken Smith
> Gulf Technical Services
> 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
> Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
> 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
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> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:54:46 -0400 "John @ Myers TV "
> <myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > I met a fellw once who desoldered with freeze spray. He didn't=20
> > care that he wound up with blobs of solder all over the board.
> >
> > As for me, I swear by solder-wik. I buy it in 50 ft rolls, but=20
> > splurged last time for a 100ft roll.
> >
> > John Myers
> > Myers TV Service Co.
> > 376 E. State St.
> > Alliance, OH 44601
> >
> > Voice / Fax: 330-821-6545
> > Myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.myerstv.net
> >
> > Work as if you were to live a hundred years,
> > Pray as if you were to die tomorrow.
> >                             Ben Franklin
> >
> >
> >
> > tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > I have several of those blue spring loaded desolder tubes you=20
> > cock on > your knee and push the button. It sucks flyback pins=20
> > good,and any > massive globs and I use wik on the ICs. You know=20
> > this is like > anything. Bowling, skeets,baseball,fishing.You can=20
> > find a dozen guys > who swear BY one thing, and the other dozen=20
> > swears AT it. Do what you > are most efficient with and that's=20
> > what will make you more money.
> > > Phil
> > > > Phil Bader, Pres.
> > > Jan Phyl TV Inc
> > > Winter Haven, Fl
> > > (863) 299-8821
> > > estab. 1976
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Electric Medic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:31 pm
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 1 pound roll solder, 50 feet of chem wick
> > > > >>Wayne: I tried those desolder stations one time, it was a=20
> > Pace. It >>was blue
> > >>with a foot pedal and all. Had a long clear hose that ran up to=20
> > >>the tool. I
> > >>was not coordinated enough to use it. I tried and tried to work that
> > >>contraption, I was running solder all over the board. I couldn't >>su=
ck and
> > >>heat at the same time. I would suck after the solder was cool=20
> > or >>vice versa.
> > >>I would melt the plastic tip so the hole was to big then it=20
> > would >>slurp up
> > >>chip components. I wouldn't even try it on those tiny areas=20
> > where >>those chip
> > mponents are everywhere. I remember using it on a tuner that I >>replac=
ed on
> > >>some brand and I sucked up a chip resistor and I almost never >>figur=
ed out
> > >>what was wrong with that set. Plus, I couldn't use it on service >>ca=
lls. I
> > >>know I waste a lot of wick especially on flybacks, I must have 6" >>o=
f the
> > >>stuff hanging with solder on it taking out a flyback, but I am=20
> > >>used to it.
> > >>
> > >>Perry Bower
> > >>Electric Medic
> > >>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> > >>http://www.electricmedic.com
> > >>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
> > >>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> > >>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
> > >>Phone: 706-863-3474
> > >>Fax: 706-863-2316
> > >>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Wayne Vanaman
> > >>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:49 AM
> > >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 1 pound roll solder, 50 feet of chem wick
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hey Perry, buy a desolder station.
> > >>I put the date on a 50 foot roll of chem wick when I opened it:=20
> > 26 >>june2001.  I finished that roll off on 26 June 2005.  Four=20
> > years.
> > >>
> > >>Not only will you spend less on chem wik, desoldering is faster >>wit=
h a
> > >>desolder station.  I spend about a dollar a month on filters. Much
> > >>cheaper than chem wik.  It takes about two seconds to desolder=20
> > a >>joint,and no damage to the board.
> > >>
> > >>If I used two rolls of solder wik a month, 2x$10=3D$20 $20x48 months=
=3D
> > >>$960.  I bought my solder station for about $1500 in 1993.  That > > =
would
> > > >>be 144 months times $20 =3D $2880 minus the $1500=3D over $1300 sav=
ings,
> > >>plus the time saved.  My solder station was paid for long, long ago.
> > >>
> > >>Wayne Vanaman
> > >>Omega Electronics
> > >>6904 W Fairfield Dr
> > >>Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
> > >>
> > >>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
> > >>
> > >>850-456-5995 voice
> > >>850-458-6369 fax
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Electric Medic wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Is that correct? 18 Month's for one roll of solder? I never >>
> > >>thought about
> > >>it
> > >>
> > >>>and I am not sure how long it takes me to go through a roll. I >>
> > >>use off
> > >>rolls
> > >>
> > >>>everywhere, one in my toolbox, one in the truck, and one on each >>
> > >>bench. I
> > >>
> > >>>know my wife bought about 20 rolls of the stuff sitting up there >>
> > >>on the
> > >>
> > >>>shelf. I think the parts salesperson talks us into a roll every >>
> > >>time we
> > >>
> > >>>order parts. That will probably last me 30 years. Hey, I finally > >=
 was
> > > >>>good-newsed, I won't have to by solder again. I can retire on >>
> > >>what I have.
> > >>I
> > >>
> > >>>wish the wick would last that long. I must go through those 50' >>
> > >>foot white
> > >>
> > >>>round ones in 2 weeks.
> > >>>
> > >>>Perry Bower
> > >>>Electric Medic
> > >>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
> > >>>http://www.electricmedic.com
> > >>>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
> > >>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
> > >>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
> > >>>Phone: 706-863-3474
> > >>>Fax: 706-863-2316
> > >>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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