[TechAssist] Re: 1 pound roll solder, 50 feet of chem wick

  • From: Scott Beebe <Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "gulftech@xxxxxxxx" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:15:37 -0400

Hello gulftech,
I use NTE No Clean Wick. It seems to work as well as the Techspray.



 Thanx,

Scott Beebe
Ohm Electronics Inc.
609 W. Clinton St.
Ithaca NY 14850
Voice: (607) 273-8406
Fax: (607) 273-8743
WWW.OhmElectronicsInc.com
mailto:Scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sunday, July 24, 2005, 2:30:31 PM, you wrote:

gulftech> My apologies to those of you who are getting tired of this thread.

gulftech> John reminded me of a point I want to make.

gulftech> First, all solder wick is not created equal.  I have had some rolls 
that
gulftech> just wouldn't work.  I have had the best luck with Techspray No-clean,
gulftech> but some rolls of the same brand are better than others.

gulftech> Second, wick has a limited life.  Did you wonder why wick comes in a
gulftech> vacuum-sealed bag?  That is done to lessen
gulftech> oxidation of the copper.  Once
gulftech> oxidided, the wick is almost worthless.  I once
gulftech> bought 50 5-ft rolls from
gulftech> a distributor at what I thought was a great
gulftech> price.  It was so poor that I
gulftech> threw almost all of it into the garbage.

gulftech> Third, it may be better to get rolls of 25' than 50 or 100.  It 
depends
gulftech> on how much you use.  (Wayne could probably do with the smallest
gulftech> available!)  Once the package is opened, the rate of oxidation 
increases,
gulftech> so you end up thinking mean, nasty things about the distributor you
gulftech> bought it from thinking they sold you garbage.  For that reason, I 
only
gulftech> open one roll at a time, and roll out 10 feet at a time to other 
techs in
gulftech> the shop.  Also, helps me keep track of wasteful usage.  I can 
understand
gulftech> Perry's situation of working in the home, where desolding stations or
gulftech> desoldering irons are impractical, but I cringe when I see a tech 
waste
gulftech> five feet of wick on a flyback.  Yes, I tend to micromanage!

gulftech> Now, if someone has ideas on the best brand of
gulftech> wick, I'd be interested...

gulftech> Regards,


gulftech> Ken Smith
gulftech> Gulf Technical Services
gulftech> 3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
gulftech> Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
gulftech> 850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)

gulftech> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:54:46 -0400 "John @ Myers TV "
gulftech> <myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> I met a fellw once who desoldered with freeze spray. He didn't care
>> that 
>> he wound up with blobs of solder all over the board.
>> 
>> As for me, I swear by solder-wik. I buy it in 50 ft rolls, but 
>> splurged 
>> last time for a 100ft roll.
>> 
>> John Myers
>> Myers TV Service Co.
>> 376 E. State St.
>> Alliance, OH 44601
>> 
>> Voice / Fax: 330-821-6545
>> Myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> http://www.myerstv.net
>> 
>> Work as if you were to live a hundred years,
>> Pray as if you were to die tomorrow.
>>                             Ben Franklin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > I have several of those blue spring loaded desolder tubes you cock
>> on 
>> > your knee and push the button. It sucks flyback pins good,and any
>> > massive globs and I use wik on the ICs. You know this is like 
>> > anything. Bowling, skeets,baseball,fishing.You can find a dozen 
>> guys 
>> > who swear BY one thing, and the other dozen swears AT it. Do what
>> you 
>> > are most efficient with and that's what will make you more money.
>> > Phil
>> > 
>> > Phil Bader, Pres.
>> > Jan Phyl TV Inc
>> > Winter Haven, Fl
>> > (863) 299-8821
>> > estab. 1976
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Electric Medic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:31 pm
>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 1 pound roll solder, 50 feet of chem 
>> wick
>> > 
>> > 
>> >>Wayne: I tried those desolder stations one time, it was a Pace. It
>> 
>> >>was blue
>> >>with a foot pedal and all. Had a long clear hose that ran up to 
>> >>the tool. I
>> >>was not coordinated enough to use it. I tried and tried to work 
>> that
>> >>contraption, I was running solder all over the board. I couldn't 
>> >>suck and
>> >>heat at the same time. I would suck after the solder was cool or 
>> >>vice versa.
>> >>I would melt the plastic tip so the hole was to big then it would
>> >>slurp up
>> >>chip components. I wouldn't even try it on those tiny areas where
>> >>those chip
>> mponents are everywhere. I remember using it on a tuner that I 
>> >>replaced on
>> >>some brand and I sucked up a chip resistor and I almost never 
>> >>figured out
>> >>what was wrong with that set. Plus, I couldn't use it on service 
>> >>calls. I
>> >>know I waste a lot of wick especially on flybacks, I must have 6"
>> >>of the
>> >>stuff hanging with solder on it taking out a flyback, but I am 
>> >>used to it.
>> >>
>> >>Perry Bower
>> >>Electric Medic
>> >>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>> >>http://www.electricmedic.com
>> >>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
>> >>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>> >>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
>> >>Phone: 706-863-3474
>> >>Fax: 706-863-2316
>> >>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Wayne Vanaman
>> >>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 10:49 AM
>> >>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 1 pound roll solder, 50 feet of chem 
>> wick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hey Perry, buy a desolder station.
>> >>I put the date on a 50 foot roll of chem wick when I opened it: 26
>> 
>> >>june2001.  I finished that roll off on 26 June 2005.  Four years.
>> >>
>> >>Not only will you spend less on chem wik, desoldering is faster 
>> >>with a
>> >>desolder station.  I spend about a dollar a month on filters. Much
>> >>cheaper than chem wik.  It takes about two seconds to desolder a 
>> >>joint,and no damage to the board.
>> >>
>> >>If I used two rolls of solder wik a month, 2x$10=$20 $20x48 
>> months=
>> >>$960.  I bought my solder station for about $1500 in 1993.  That 
>> > 
>> > would
>> > 
>> >>be 144 months times $20 = $2880 minus the $1500= over $1300 
>> savings,
>> >>plus the time saved.  My solder station was paid for long, long 
>> ago.
>> >>
>> >>Wayne Vanaman
>> >>Omega Electronics
>> >>6904 W Fairfield Dr
>> >>Pensacola, Fl.  32506-3310
>> >>
>> >>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com
>> >>
>> >>850-456-5995 voice
>> >>850-458-6369 fax
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Electric Medic wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Is that correct? 18 Month's for one roll of solder? I never 
>> >>
>> >>thought about
>> >>it
>> >>
>> >>>and I am not sure how long it takes me to go through a roll. I 
>> >>
>> >>use off
>> >>rolls
>> >>
>> >>>everywhere, one in my toolbox, one in the truck, and one on each
>> >>
>> >>bench. I
>> >>
>> >>>know my wife bought about 20 rolls of the stuff sitting up there
>> >>
>> >>on the
>> >>
>> >>>shelf. I think the parts salesperson talks us into a roll every 
>> >>
>> >>time we
>> >>
>> >>>order parts. That will probably last me 30 years. Hey, I finally
>> > 
>> > was
>> > 
>> >>>good-newsed, I won't have to by solder again. I can retire on 
>> >>
>> >>what I have.
>> >>I
>> >>
>> >>>wish the wick would last that long. I must go through those 50' 
>> >>
>> >>foot white
>> >>
>> >>>round ones in 2 weeks.
>> >>>
>> >>>Perry Bower
>> >>>Electric Medic
>> >>>"It's Cheaper to Keep Her"
>> >>>http://www.electricmedic.com
>> >>>3850 Washington Road  Suite 4C
>> >>>Martinez, Georgia 30907
>> >>>Phone: 706-8MEDIC4  (863-3424)
>> >>>Phone: 706-863-3474
>> >>>Fax: 706-863-2316
>> >>>mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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