An alternative is to incorporate a 'GO' bit. (But this will need a new PROM for the controller!) I have a site which can use the following plans: Plan 3 {AB! 0}1, {B 0}2, {C 0, BC 2}3, {D 0, BDE! 2}4, {E 0}5 Plan 4 {AB! 0}1, {B 0}2, {C 0, BC 2}3, {D 0, DE! 2}4, {E 0}5 A is an early start for right turns, which did not optimise well using an exit filter loop. It is now optimised by waiting for a gap in the extensions from the right turn lane. B is the main road stage. C is a pedestrian stage. D is a bus depot exit which remains demand dependant. E is the side road stage. As you can see in plan 3, SCOOT stage 4 has demand dependant moves to either stay on the main road or go into the side road, in the absence of D or if D gaps off. After the 2 second window for D, the move to E is at the controller's discretion. The controller cannot go back from D to B, so if D ran it must go through to E. However, E still has to run and is optimised in SCOOT stage 5. The problem with this was that the bus drivers who had arrived after their window, saw the signals end stage B and move to E leaving them waiting, so they thought it was faulty and came out on red. Once they had left, they didn't see they got green on the next cycle. We no longer use this plan for that reason. We now only use plan 4. However, the signals have run successfully on both plans in the past. -- Ian M. Stewart Senior Engineer (Network Performance) Highways and Environmental Management Lancashire County Council telephone: 01772 533736 mobile: 07831 097495 mailto: ian.stewart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Denyer Sent: 21 July 2008 16:39 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Scoot Plan Preparation Hi, =20 Has anyone written a scoot plan which contains 2 UTC demand dependant stages contained within the one scoot stage. I have checked the plan preparation handbook and it only gives the following example which is not suitable for my proposed stage sequence. =20 J01111 001 N01111 {A 0}1, {B 0, AB 2}2, {C 0, AC 2}3 =20 What I hope to achieve is something like this, stage B is a filter which I don't want to extend =20 J01111 001 N01111 (A 0)1, (B 0)2, (look for C, look for D, go back to A)3 =20 Hope this makes sense =20 cheers Securing the future... - Improving services - Enhancing quality=20 of life - Making best use of public resources. The information in this email is solely for the intended=20 recipients.=20 If you are not an intended recipient, you must not disclose,=20 copy, or distribute its contents or use them in any way: please=20 advise the sender immediately and delete this email. Perth & Kinross Council does not warrant that this email or any=20 attachments are virus-free and does not accept any liability for=20 any loss or damage resulting from any virus infection. Perth &=20 Kinross Council may monitor or examine any emails received by its=20 email system. The information contained in this email may not be the views of=20 Perth & Kinross Council. It is possible for email to be falsified=20 and the sender cannot be held responsible for the integrity of=20 the information contained in it. Requests to Perth & Kinross Council under the Freedom of=20 Information (Scotland) Act should be directed to the Freedom of=20 Information Team - email: foi@xxxxxxxxxx General enquiries should be made to enquiries@xxxxxxxxxx or 01738=20 475000. Securing the future... - Improving services - Enhancing quality=20 of life - Making best use of public resources. ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ******************** This e-mail contains information intended for the addressee only. It may be confidential and may be the subject of legal and/or professional = privilege.=20 If you are not the addressee you are not authorised to disseminate, distrib= ute, copy or use this e-mail or any attachment to it The content may be personal or contain personal opinions and unless specifi= cally stated or followed up in writing, the content cannot be taken to form= a contract or to be an expression of the County Council's position. Lancashire County Council reserves the right to monitor all incoming and ou= tgoing email Lancashire County Council has taken reasonable steps to ensure that outgoin= g communications do not contain malicious software and it is your responsib= ility to carry out any checks on this email before accepting the email and = opening attachments. ******************** A 4-star council: awarded top marks by the Audit Commission ******************** ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug