[TCUG] Re: Pedestrian crossings resting on red to traffic
- From: "Thurston, Andrew" <Andrew.Thurston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:41:30 -0000
The crossing in Chelmsford also crosses a road which has restricted
access, limited to buses, cycles and access for deliveries only. The
buses are frequent throughout the day, and the crossing is on a raised
table. Although a number of pedestrians do ignore the red man when it
appears, there is no significant safety issue because traffic speeds are
so low.
ANDREW THURSTON
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
TRAFFIC TECHNOLOGY
andrew.thurston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DDI : 020 7430 6980
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From: Bruce Slattery [mailto:bruce_slattery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 21 January 2004 09:30
To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Pedestrian crossings resting on red to traffic
You may like to talk to Dft about this as they are not very keen on this
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type of crossing. I don't believe it is recommended at stand alone (mid
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block) puffin crossings as it goes against the short green invitation to
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cross followed by an extendable all red.
I also believe that resting on green is likely to result in people =3D
ignoring the red man as they 'know' the crossing is on green so will
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cross any way.
This happened a lot with the crossing Lee mentioned in Poole and we have
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similar problems with a crossing in Bristol, although this is probably
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to the low numbers of vehicles using both of these crossings (both are
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and access only).=3D20
As the crossing in Bristol had a considerable accident problem than I =
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would risk assess this type of crossing throughly before going down this
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route. Resting on all red might be a safer way of achieving similar =3D
results as at junctions this can make the junction safer rather than
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dangerous.
Regards=3D20
Bruce Slattery
Manager Traffic Signals & UTC=3D20
>>> jmcneil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/20/04 04:48pm >>>
We have had a suggestion put forward to us that would it be possible to
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allow a pedestrian crossing to rest on red to traffic, i.e. reverting to
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the pedestrian stage as the normal mode of operation.
Does anybody do this, or has anyone even trialled this?
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
James.
James S. McNeil BSc
UTC Manager
Traffic and Transportation
Tel. 0121 704 7100
Fax. 0121 704 7110
jmcneil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
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