DfT advise that it is not legal to have any other markings within the controlled area of a pedestrian crossing. This is contained within the pedestrian crossing regs of 1997 and as Paul says read them carefully perhaps starting with pragraph 9 and the relevant paragraphs in schedules 1 - 3. You could make a traffic order and attempt to enforce it without the double yellow lines in place as it is a lesser restriction, but I doubt your solicitor would like it. Dick > -----Original Message----- > From: Alistair McClean [SMTP:alistair.mcclean@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 29 July 2002 13:29 > To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TCUG] Pedestrian Crossing Zig-Zags & Decriminalisation of > Parking Restrictions > > > At Nottingham City Council we already employ Parking Enforcement Officers > to > enforce metered on-street parking spaces in Nottingham City Centre, and > the > authority is currently moving towards decriminalisation of all parking / > loading restrictions within its administrative boundary. > > This has created a potential problem at pelican / puffin / toucans with > zig-zag markings. It would appear that those involved in the decrim > process > are proposing that due to a potential lack of police enforcement on these > zig-zags, they will be seen as a good place to park to escape the clutches > of the council employed enforcement officers. Therefore TROs are being > processed to allow yellow lines to be laid in all pedestrian crossing > controlled zones, in addition to the zig-zags, to enable enforcement by > the > Officers. > > Our concerns in Traffic Signal Design are that, at best, the combination > of > yellow lines and zig-zags may not be enforceable, and that if there was an > accident at a crossing site whilst a vehicle was stopped on the zig-zags, > the authority would be liable as the 'no stopping at any time' message of > the zig-zags would be contradicted by the 'no parking' message of double > yellow lines (i.e. loading/unloading, picking up/setting down is > permissible) (a no loading at any time Order is not proposed as this would > require a public enquiry). > > I have been led to believe that other authorities in this situation have > provided both yellow lines and zig-zags. 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