[TCUG] Re: Offset Pedestrian Facilities at a Controlled Junction - Zig-Zag markings or Not
- From: Grahame Bath <grahame.bath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:48:12 +0000
We've the same problem in the middle of Walton on Thames.
No zig zags on an associated pedestrian facility which is out of sight
around
a small one way system, one junction on which is controlled by signals.
We have so many complaints from Police but to install zig zags would
inhibit
all trade at adajacent shops. Yes, we know that sometimes parked vehicles
obstruct visibility, but they would do that even if the zig zags were
there.
Deliveries have to be made and we have no accident problem at this
location.
So - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is our policy with this one.
It meets the regs - even if all do not agree.
Happy New Year all
Regards
Grahame
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Grahame Bath
Senior Engineer
Network Management & Information
Surrey County Council
020 8541 7346 (Tel) 020 8541 7366 (Fax)
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[TCUG] Re: Offset Pedestrian
04/01/08 11:20 Facilities at a Controlled Junction
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Peter,
'if' you do decide to put in Zig-Zag's then you obviously need to
advertise this facility as a separate 'Puffin' crossing=20
as I understand it 'regs' don't allow zig-zags at anything other than a
Puffin/Pelican/Toucan
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Sent: 04 January 2008 11:10
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Subject: [TCUG] Offset Pedestrian Facilities at a Controlled Junction -
Zig-Zag markings or Not
Happy New Year to one and All
Hopefully, you guys can offer some good advice on this one.
I have a new Junction being installed with walk with traffic peds on
three arms + an off-set ped facility approximately 30m from the main
junction. This offset ped will be controlled by the main junction
controller as a separate stream or with phase delays (still to be
agreed), and the question has been asked whether the road markings for
the offset ped should be zig-zags or the standard stop lines/centre line
with double yellows. The signal equipment will be nearside puffin type
with pedestrian detection.
There is also a mid block dual puffin crossing being installed
approximately 100m from the offset crossing that will have zig-zag
markings.
My initial thoughts are that we should use zig-zag markings for
consistency, but 5/05 Pedestrian Failties at Signal Controlled Junctions
does not advise this.
Any helpful advice would be greatly appreciated.=3D20
Kind Regards
Peter Hodge MIHT
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