[TCUG] Re: Nearside indicator read through

  • From: Saffer Howard <Howard.Saffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:26:40 +0100

In relation to Peter Jones comments - I don't know if he is talking about the 
same thing - but we are not talking about vehicle read-through of pedestrian 
near-side indicator signals (although others admittedly claim that this is also 
a problem) - we are talking about pedestrian read-through problems (ie. 
pedestrians treating a nearside signal at an 'adjacent' crossing at a junction 
- as being for in effect like a far-sided signal for themselves). I suspect in 
most instances where this happens that this is mainly a sub-concious reaction 
by people who are more used to far-sided signals).

Regards

Howard Saffer (Mailto:howard.saffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Traffic Signal Design Group 
DEL - Development Services 
Sheffield City Council 
Tel:  0114 - 273 - 6154 
Fax: 0114 - 273 - 6182 




-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Jones [mailto:peter.jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 12 June 2004 08:23
To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Nearside indicator read through



I cannot understand how a motorist could confuse a low level wait
indicator showing a green man for a green traffic signal, however, the
use of these indicators probably eliminates the UK ever making use of
low level signal indicators, as in France.




Peter Jones
Project Leader - Traffic Control Systems
Phone: +44 (0) 151 934 4254
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Peter.Jones (AT) technical.sefton.gov.uk
Sefton MBC - UTC
7th Floor
Balliol House
Balliol Road
Bootle
L20 3NJ

Please see our web pages on traffic control in Sefton:

http://www.sefton.gov.uk/content-2781
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