There are detectors to extend the all red and also quite a long intergreen between phases as well. There are 6 such bridges here and we have had tourists etc stopping to admire the view then been faced with oncoming traffic.=20 In this case 2 police officers who attended the accident stood at either end of the bridge and apparently agreed that both greens were on at the same time. They then advised both drivers that no one was at fault because the lights were faulty.=20 I then explained to them how the signals operate and although it was possible for vehicles to meet on the bridge, they must have got a green at different times. Unfortunately they are sticking with their story. Funnily enough after witnessing such a dangerous occurrence they decided to leave the lights switched on. I'm now waiting for the insurance claims to come in from both drivers. Scott Denyer Engineer Urban Traffic Control =20 Phone 01738 476517 Fax 01738 476510 Mobile 07771 814816 =20 -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Warren, Bob (DEVELOPMENT) Sent: 02 August 2005 15:30 To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [TCUG] Re: Green Conflict Scot, Are there detectors that extend the intergreen between stages, if so, and there is a fault, the first vehicle could go through a green, then before he clears the other end, the second vehicle could get a green. Worth checking! Bob Warren Plymouth City -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott Denyer Sent: 02 August 2005 11:45 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Green Conflict Hi, =20 I have a shuttle working signalised bridge where following a head on crash both drivers claimed to have green at the same time.=20 =20 We tested the green conflict afterwards and as expected the controller shut down the lights.=20 =20 Has anyone ever experienced fault conditions where green conflicts occur and where the controller has also failed to shut down ? =20 =20 =20 Scott Denyer Engineer - Urban Traffic Control Planning & Transportation Perth & Kinross Council Pullar House 35 Kinnoull Street Perth PH1 5GD =20 Phone 01738 476517 Fax 01738 476510 Mobile 07771 814816 =20 =20 The information in this email is solely for the intended recipients.=20 If you are not an intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, or=20 distribute its contents or use them in any way: please advise the=20 sender immediately and delete this email. Perth & Kinross Council does not warrant that this email or any=20 attachments are virus-free and does not accept any liability for any=20 loss or damage resulting from any virus infection. Perth & Kinross=20 Council may monitor or examine any emails received by its email=20 system. The information contained in this email may not be the views of Perth=20 & Kinross Council. It is possible for email to be falsified and the=20 sender cannot be held responsible for the integrity of the=20 information=20 contained in it. Requests to Perth & Kinross Council under the Freedom of Information=20 (Scotland) Act should be directed to the Freedom of Information Team - =20 email: foi@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug The information in this email is solely for the intended recipients. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, or distribute its contents or use them in any way: please advise the sender immediately and delete this email. Perth & Kinross Council does not warrant that this email or any attachments are virus-free and does not accept any liability for any loss or damage resulting from any virus infection. Perth & Kinross Council may monitor or examine any emails received by its email system. The information contained in this email may not be the views of Perth & Kinross Council. It is possible for email to be falsified and the sender cannot be held responsible for the integrity of the information contained in it. Requests to Perth & Kinross Council under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act should be directed to the Freedom of Information Team - email: foi@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug