*** Before reading or acting on this e-mail, or opening any attachment, ple= ase read Derby City Council's disclaimer and confidentiality statement at t= he end of this e-mail ***=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AIt depends on the layout of the = junction. Obviously we use them with RTIGAs but also where there is an exit= crossing as part of the junction (don't want traffic stopping at the secon= dary) or where the secondary can't be installed within the field of view eg= some roundabouts. In practise I estimate we probably use them around 50% o= f the time.=0D=0A=0D=0AIan Wallis=0D=0ADerby City Council=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A= -----Original Message-----=0D=0AFrom: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcu= g-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On=0D=0ABehalf Of Williams, Geoff=0D=0ASent: 27 Sept= ember 2006 11:29=0D=0ATo: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'=0D=0ASubject: [TCUG] Re: Clo= sely Associated Secondary Signals=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ATest=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D= =0A-----Original Message-----=0D=0AFrom: Fleckney, Kevan [mailto:Kevan.Flec= kney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=0D=0ASent: 27 September 2006 10:57=0D=0ATo: tcug@freeli= sts.org=0D=0ASubject: [TCUG] Re: Closely Associated Secondary Signals=0D=0A=0D= =0A=0D=0APlease read the Council's email disclaimer notification which is l= ocated at=0D=0Athe end of the email message.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AI always use = far sided secondaries except where one cannot physically be=0D=0Aprovided o= r where there is an opposing right turn IGA=0D=0A=0D=0AKevan Fleckney=0D=0A=0D= =0A-----Original Message-----=0D=0AFrom: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:= tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=0D=0ABehalf Of Andrew Ashton=0D=0ASent: 27 Se= ptember 2006 10:36=0D=0ATo: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D=0ASubject: [TCUG] Closely= Associated Secondary Signals=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AHi All,=0D=0A=0D=0AI've been= asked by our senior management to gauge how many authorities=0D=0Ause =3D = 'closely associated secondary signals', as follows:=0D=0A=0D=0A1. as standa= rd on all sites;=0D=0A2. only when circumstances dictate (i.e.. right turn = accident issues,=0D=0Aimpra=3D cticable to use far-sided secondaries);=0D=0A=0D= =0ATraffic Advisory Leaflet 1/06 - General Principles of Traffic Control by=0D= =0Ali=3D ght Signals Part 1 of 4 states:=0D=0A=0D=0A"Signal heads beyond th= e junction are known as secondary signals. The=0D=0Adispl=3D ays must have = the same information as the primary and may have=0D=0Aadditional i=3D nform= ation, which must not conflict with that shown on the=0D=0Aprimary. In cert= =3D ain circumstances it may be undesirable, or=0D=0Aimpracticable, to posi= tion the =3D secondary beyond the junction. On these=0D=0Aoccasions the sec= ondary may be on t=3D he entry side of the junction,=0D=0Abeyond the stopli= ne and primary positions an=3D d preferably on the=0D=0Aoffside. This is kn= own as a closely associated secondar=3D y."=0D=0A=0D=0AI assume from the ab= ove paragraph new designs shall always incorporate=0D=0Afar-=3D sided secon= daries with CASS only being used in certain=0D=0Acircumstances.=0D=0A=0D=0A= I would appreciate your thoughts and comments.=0D=0A=0D=0ARegards,=3D20=0D=0A=0D= =0AAndy Ashton=3D20=0D=0ABlackpool Council =3D20=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AEmail Dis= claimer is:=3D20 http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/EmailDisclaimer/=0D=0AThis mes= sage has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft=0D=0AExchange=3D= as part of the Council's e-mail and internet policy.=0D=0A=0D=0A---------= --------------------------------------------------=0D=0AA message from the = TCUG mailing list. 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