Brian, how long has that 58 been off the road? Jeff sent via iPhone On Aug 4, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: i will never tub another bus, lesson learned on hershey :( but boy he was tuckin: http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n256/i_am_cool_fred/June%20Bug%20Jamboree/?action=view¤t=P1010063.jpg http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n256/i_am_cool_fred/June%20Bug%20Jamboree/?action=view¤t=P1010006.jpg Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:42:19 -0700 From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I've heard that tubbing one stops that. LOL! --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 11:42 AM I'm nowhere near hitting my steering box. The tops of the tires hitting the front wheel arches when I hit bumps. Not so much when I'm by myself, but if I have somebody in the passenger seat it gets pretty annoying. Denis wrote: Do you mean your tires are rubbing or are you scraping your steering box? ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Woodall To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet I'm bottoming out the front of my bus. It started happening after I put on the Hankook RA-08 tires. I think I'm going to go for some lower profile 14" tires and maybe put the Hankooks on the Vanagon. Denis wrote: No. He is still officially lowered, and I like him that way, but I was working on how not to have the front tires rub without narrowing the beam. Along with some other tweaks, I raised the settings on the springplates and maybe brought him up 1/2 inch. It did pretty much eliminate the rubbing. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Woodall To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet Did you take the drop spindles off? Seems like it was still lowered the last time I saw it (him) at the Classic? Denis wrote: I raised Murray using the springplates. I have a little camber, but the tires are wearing smoothly. It may change when you load the bus and get in it. Springplates are easy and if you don't like it, you can put it back and it's free. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Denning To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet i meant 205/75r15's just reread my post, sorry, i'm so used to typing 14 thanks to being in bay hell From: i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:07:37 -0500 from all my readings it's looking more and more like fred will be getting 205/75r15's i was going to do 215/75r15 but i really plan on going offroad with this thing and the thought of the tires getting into those perfect rear fender lips just kills me a bit inside. after discussing with mike through email it was all coil overs, he says it rides good, but again, after much reading i don't think i'd want to go that route 205/75r14's are about 2" bigger than stock, that's what hershey now has on him thanks to his new owner, and it looks bad ass. so that's what i shall do to fred. sucks, i wanted to raise him, but there's no good way of doing it without getting alot of positive camber out back, which woudl make it a bit squirelly on the highways. Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:00:07 -0500 From: evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet The tires were a lot of it but the spring plates were cranked up quite a bit too. Too bad you couldn't do an easy body lift on a bus like you can on a bug to get more tire clearance. -- Sent from my Palm Pre Eric Woodall wrote: ..and Mike's bus isn't that much taller than stock. Maybe about 2 inches, which was gained by tires. w.wood wrote: really? Wow, I guess all those years of fixing up cut wheel wells didn't teach me much about redux boxes then. I don't know much about yours and it could have been modified. If you have 46mm axle nuts and you're planning to run big tires I'd suggest getting a set from a 55-63 bus which have lower gearing for the taller tires you sound like you'll need. You could always cut the fender wells out and go 60's retro with fiberglass fender flares. That and a set of air scoops would look totally mod for the new millennium.. ;-) Also since presumably yours is a 58 you should read the crazy 8's thread on thesamba before you make mods. You may have something rare there. I realize under the rust you may be expecting Doubloons but I'd bet just rot.. Then again you could always get a Ford chassis and put your bus on top of that. Wait, that's been done http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=358633&start=0 But at least you could get parts at the local ArkaCan O'Reilly's or Canada Tire and keep it running. The point I'm trying to make here Brian is that if you're going to modify a 51 year old bus you should think about the end game and the serviceability. If it's going to be something for fun then you want contemporary components that are relatively easy to get. I'll also get a *gasp* from that from a few folks on here on that statement but if you've priced stock 1600 parts lately, the ones that aren't made in Taiwan, then you'll know what I mean. Redux gear parts aren't exactly being made by the bucket full anymore, neither are stub axles for RGBs either. If you want real fun, try buying Barndoor parts sometime.. So if you're committed to modify, go big or go home. Don't try to modify 50 year old parts without expecting the requisite problems and pocket book gouge.. To illustrate the problem, after futzing around with a Type 3 this weekend, I'm having it hauled to Doug's for some more work.. and that's for my kid for High School.. Why? After putting new heads on it, new tubes it wouldn't mate back up to the transaxle. After re-aligning the clutch 3 times to see if I could get it to seat, I said "f* it." But then again CB 044 heads, dual 44 IDFs and a 1700 Kennedy may be fighting me somewhere but oh well... It needs some other things too, so might as well whip out the checkbook.... fix the z-bar.. new wheel cylinders.. oh well. Right now I'm thinking Honda Accords look pretty damn good. Maybe a Prius.. in Pink.. Naw, he's cadet commander in NJROTC and that'll be against the don't ask don't drive a Prius policy. On Mikes bus he went with some very tall tires and wound up denting the lower portion of his dog legs and his rear rockers. A lot of the height he gained was by the tires as far as I recall. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: will, i know i'm new to pre 67, but i'm pretty sure they all have redux. boxes from the factory ;) including both of mine Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:15:17 -0400 Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet From: evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx What??? This sounds like ArklaCan engineering here? Get a set of redux boxes and tall tires, it'll go up high enough. THe coil overs from what I recall was in the front end. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Brian Denning <i_am_cool_fred@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: the only raising busses thread is the one kevin did and i'm not gonna cut my tranny hanger to do a 2" tranny drop Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:18:23 -0700 From: bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: mike everet To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Brian: I have 2 phone #s for him: Home 214-350-5373, cell 214-837-1379. Will not guarantee that those or good. They are rather old and I haven't called him in a long time. If they do not work you might call Jack Wenk at Black Gold Imports in Arlington and ask him either how Mike did it or how to get in touch with Mike. Phone # at Black Gold is 817-633-1135 I think. I do know that Mike did not do any major suspension modifications to his bus. I think just coil overs and larger tires. There is also a thread on the samba about raising busses. 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