[tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Custom

  • From: Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:07:15 -0500

My 'well built' 1600 with reduction boxes hauls ass.

sammie smith wrote:
> You are already cruising faster than I want to drive a splittie with
> stock suspension.  In my opinion the only reason people go to a 1776
> or 1835 is that it is a cheap way to get more cc, not the best way. 
> For a splittie with a stock look I would still go with a well built 1600.
>
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> *From:* "wuzmop@xxxxxxx" <wuzmop@xxxxxxx>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Thu, April 8, 2010 7:51:34 AM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967
> & Earlier - Custom
>
> I have to agree here. I've toyed with the idea of a sp 1776 for my
> bus, but I want to retain my redux boxes, and I've shyed away from it
> for the reasons Sammy listed. I can already do 75 on a good day,
> cruise at 65-70 easily with my 1600 dp.
>  
> I'd be curious about you guys' opinions on how a 1776 sp would compare
> to what I have now. The only reason I would even entertain the idea is
> I want sp for appearance, but don't want to loose the mph I have now.
> Better yet, what would you build (on a budget) to suit my needs?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:33 am
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967 &
> Earlier - Custom
>
> No, I don't like 1776 and 1835s.  The secret of power for most VW
> driving is more torque, which you get by stroking for more CCs, not
> increasing the bore.  Lyle Cherry used to build a great stroker 1800cc
> and the guys at Oakhill Auto have figured out a way to build a super
> reliable 2007cc.  And to keep it stock looking you gotta go with
> single port heads and stock carbs and exhaust, then you are sort of
> defeating the purpose of a big motor if you put stock carbs, exhaust
> and single port heads on it.  And if you think I am a "stock" guy,
> just take a look at my Baja.  Better yet, I'll take you for a ride in
> it and show you what a 2 liter stroker motor will do to the
> acceleration of a VW.
>
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> *From:* Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx <mailto:coocoo@xxxxxxx>>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Wed, April 7, 2010 8:56:24 PM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967
> & Earlier - Custom
>
> But, being a stock guy, you would never go to a 1776?
>  
> *From:* tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?>]
> *On Behalf Of *sammie smith
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 07, 2010 8:54 PM
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967
> & Earlier - Custom
>  
> They cruise Ok up to about 60-65, which is about as fast as I want to
> drive a stock sprung bus.  But, if I were building an engine for them
> and still wanted to look stock I would build a single port 1600 with a
> dog house for cooling.  Westies are also a lot heavier than panel vans
> or even a nornal kombi or deluxe so a little extra power to pull all
> of the weight would be nice.
>  
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> *From:* Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Wed, April 7, 2010 3:47:03 PM
> *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967
> & Earlier - Custom
>
> A turbo single port 1500 would be cool.
>
> Quoting atx <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx>>:
>
> > How do you like the 1500?  Have enough guts and top end speed?
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > sent via iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2010, at 6:02 PM, sammie smith 
> <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes.  Both of my Westies, 65 and 66 have their original 1500 engines 
> and they are bone stock.
> >
> > From: atx <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 5:30:02 PM
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967 
> & Earlier - Custom
> >
> > Sammie are you running a 1500 in your 65?
> >
> >  When I get around to restoring my 66 hard top westy I'm planning to 
> go stock with appearence but will probably upgrade the motor while 
> staying single port.  And maybe add some disc brakes.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > sent via iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2010, at 1:02 PM, sammie smith 
> <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
> >
> > The bus last year was Peter Albarian's newly restored 23 window and 
> the engine won best vintage/stock engine.  The engine was absolutely 
> about as close to correct as you can make one and was built almost 
> enitrely with NOS parts.  The best engine and other best of awards 
> are judged by a group of competent judges.  As for the class awards, 
> they are done by peoples choice and you may have a group of people 
> who have no idea of the difference between a bay window and a split 
> window voting on your class.  I am taking my 65 westy that is 
> restored to about as close to original as you can get.  I will 
> probably get beaten in camper class by someone with one that is 
> painted purple and pink with an Arab tent, empi 5 spokes and deluxe 
> trim because they are prettier.
> >
> > As Will says, go to have fun and what happens with the awards happens.
> >
> > From: "wuzmop@xxxxxxx <mailto:wuzmop@xxxxxxx>" <wuzmop@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:wuzmop@xxxxxxx>>
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 12:02:14 PM
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967 
> & Earlier - Custom
> >
> > Trigger shifters. It's all about the trigger shifter these days.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:50 am
> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Type 2 - 1967 & Earlier - Stock or Type 2 - 1967 
> & Earlier - Custom
> >
> > What ?!?!? No Empi Five Spokes? No Chrome Bumpers?  No Shag Green
> Carpet?!?!?
> >
> > James, just go stock class.  Take two or three sleeping pills 
> tonight and every night until you're past this weekend.
> > Being there is half the fun.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:31 AM, James Dwan 
> <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > I noticed the winner last year had an original motor. So now I am 
> wondering if I should change my class to Custom since mine is a 1600 
> and my gas tank is now a Mauve with Chartreuse straps. Thoughts?
> >
> > James
> >
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