[tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:10:56 -0500
LOL
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:48 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
> That's why you are on this list. You just want an audience that can
> understand you cause you are so far over those govt workers heads they have
> no idea what you are talking about.
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 3/10/10, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
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> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:12 PM
>
>
> NO, but I will argue with you over the length of a ruler anytime.. ;-)
>
> You forget I work with Government employees all day long.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:58 PM, sammie smith <
> bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
>
>> You got him started! Will sounds like the guy in our club who will talk
>> for 4 hours non-stop about oil.
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 3/10/10, w.wood
>> <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: w.wood
>> <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>
>>
>> Subject: [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
>> To:
>> tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:34 PM
>>
>>
>> That's the theory and is based on what Gene Berg did a long time ago.
>> Gene came out and said he tested it and it didn't cool the engine as well,
>> so it became biblical. From all of the data I've seen over the past 15
>> years the convection argument is mute, both pull heat out of the engine and
>> synthetics can reduce heat more because they allow less friction in the
>> engine. For me:
>>
>> 1) They lubricate better
>> 2) I can run a thinner weight oil for any given condition without them
>> becoming as thin as water when at operating temps. I also don't worry about
>> the temps for the most part. Just drive it.
>> 3) Longer Duration between changes, run a filter. If you're running
>> without a filter, you need to change the oil more frequently anyway to get
>> rid of the crap that starts to build
>> within the oil, so going to Synthetic starts to make less technical vs.
>> economic sense at that point. I tend to want the best I can get because
>> parts are not cheap. If you haven't priced or found Okrasa 86mm cranks,
>> you'll know what I'm talking about. In three of my ACVWs I run bypass
>> filters that really clean out the gunk as well. The 52 runs synthetic, the
>> 59 and the do as well.
>>
>> The other part of the argument is that not a lot of folks publish their
>> test results based on standard testing, AMS as well as Royal Purple both
>> publish information
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.synthetic-motor-oil-change-and-filters.com/amsoil_articles/mineral-petrolium-oil-compared-to-synthetic/
>>
>> So, YMMV, if you're happy with petro-oil go with it, but synthetics are
>> also base petro-oils with modified molecular chains.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eric Woodall
>> <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I think it has more to do with the synthetics holding onto the heat.
>>> Dino oils are supposedly better at dissipating heat.
>>> I've been running 10w30 for a long time.
>>>
>>> w.wood wrote:
>>> > "generally the aircooled vw
>>> > doesn't like synthetics."
>>> >
>>> > Yes, we all know motor oil hasn't evolved in the past 50 years and
>>> > what sludge was good in the 1930s is now still applicable in terms of
>>> > molecular technology. The troglodytes will still hold onto their
>>> > beliefs. "Yeah run 50W straight.. That works." Nobody of course
>>> > realizes how truly thick straight 50 is nor how much power it robs
>>> > just to pump it through the engine, but again, it was good for
>>> grandpa..
>>> >
>>> > Unfortunately all ACVWs are becoming antiques so I guess the antique
>>> > mantra should still be upheld. Does anybody know where a good old
>>> > Sperm Whale is? I need to lubricate my torsion bars.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Eric Woodall
>>> > <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > If you don't believe me, repost that topic on TheSamba.
>>> > Serious stuff.
>>> > Basically everybody likes what they like, and generally the
>>> > aircooled vw
>>> > doesn't like synthetics.
>>> >
>>> > ATX BUS wrote:
>>> > > A motor oil debate is akin to politics and religion? Wow, that's
>>> a
>>> > > serious can of worms.
>>> > >
>>> > > Jeff
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > *From:* Eric Woodall
>>> > <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>
>>> > > *To:*
>>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>> tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > > *Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 1:03:07 PM
>>> > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
>>> > >
>>> > > All I know is the oil debate is long and heated, akin to
>>> > politics and
>>> > > religion.
>>> > >
>>> > > ATX BUS wrote:
>>> > > > Anyone ever ran their aircooled v-dub on Green (biodegradable)
>>> > motor
>>> > > > oil. Sounds like it would be a good idea, easy to do and
>>> > better for
>>> > > > the environment.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Here is a quick link. The video mirrors the text so you don't
>>> > have to
>>> > > > watch to get the idea. The only question I have is the
>>> mechanic
>>> > > > states, "better for your car, better for the environmment." I
>>> > wonder
>>> > > > how he would support the better for you car claim?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>> http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/30910-FOXe-Report-Biodegradable-Motor-Oil
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Jeff
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
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