[tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
- From: "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:12:41 -0500
NO, but I will argue with you over the length of a ruler anytime.. ;-)
You forget I work with Government employees all day long.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:58 PM, sammie smith
<bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> You got him started! Will sounds like the guy in our club who will talk for
> 4 hours non-stop about oil.
>
> --- On *Wed, 3/10/10, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:34 PM
>
>
> That's the theory and is based on what Gene Berg did a long time ago. Gene
> came out and said he tested it and it didn't cool the engine as well, so it
> became biblical. From all of the data I've seen over the past 15 years the
> convection argument is mute, both pull heat out of the engine and synthetics
> can reduce heat more because they allow less friction in the engine. For
> me:
>
> 1) They lubricate better
> 2) I can run a thinner weight oil for any given condition without them
> becoming as thin as water when at operating temps. I also don't worry about
> the temps for the most part. Just drive it.
> 3) Longer Duration between changes, run a filter. If you're running
> without a filter, you need to change the oil more frequently anyway to get
> rid of the crap that starts to build
> within the oil, so going to Synthetic starts to make less technical vs.
> economic sense at that point. I tend to want the best I can get because
> parts are not cheap. If you haven't priced or found Okrasa 86mm cranks,
> you'll know what I'm talking about. In three of my ACVWs I run bypass
> filters that really clean out the gunk as well. The 52 runs synthetic, the
> 59 and the do as well.
>
> The other part of the argument is that not a lot of folks publish their
> test results based on standard testing, AMS as well as Royal Purple both
> publish information
>
>
>
> http://www.synthetic-motor-oil-change-and-filters.com/amsoil_articles/mineral-petrolium-oil-compared-to-synthetic/
>
> So, YMMV, if you're happy with petro-oil go with it, but synthetics are
> also base petro-oils with modified molecular chains.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eric Woodall
> <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
>
>> I think it has more to do with the synthetics holding onto the heat.
>> Dino oils are supposedly better at dissipating heat.
>> I've been running 10w30 for a long time.
>>
>> w.wood wrote:
>> > "generally the aircooled vw
>> > doesn't like synthetics."
>> >
>> > Yes, we all know motor oil hasn't evolved in the past 50 years and
>> > what sludge was good in the 1930s is now still applicable in terms of
>> > molecular technology. The troglodytes will still hold onto their
>> > beliefs. "Yeah run 50W straight.. That works." Nobody of course
>> > realizes how truly thick straight 50 is nor how much power it robs
>> > just to pump it through the engine, but again, it was good for grandpa..
>> >
>> > Unfortunately all ACVWs are becoming antiques so I guess the antique
>> > mantra should still be upheld. Does anybody know where a good old
>> > Sperm Whale is? I need to lubricate my torsion bars.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Eric Woodall
>> > <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > If you don't believe me, repost that topic on TheSamba.
>> > Serious stuff.
>> > Basically everybody likes what they like, and generally the
>> > aircooled vw
>> > doesn't like synthetics.
>> >
>> > ATX BUS wrote:
>> > > A motor oil debate is akin to politics and religion? Wow, that's
>> a
>> > > serious can of worms.
>> > >
>> > > Jeff
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > *From:* Eric Woodall
>> > <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>
>> > > *To:*
>> > tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>> tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> > > *Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 1:03:07 PM
>> > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
>> > >
>> > > All I know is the oil debate is long and heated, akin to
>> > politics and
>> > > religion.
>> > >
>> > > ATX BUS wrote:
>> > > > Anyone ever ran their aircooled v-dub on Green (biodegradable)
>> > motor
>> > > > oil. Sounds like it would be a good idea, easy to do and
>> > better for
>> > > > the environment.
>> > > >
>> > > > Here is a quick link. The video mirrors the text so you don't
>> > have to
>> > > > watch to get the idea. The only question I have is the mechanic
>> > > > states, "better for your car, better for the environmment." I
>> > wonder
>> > > > how he would support the better for you car claim?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
>> http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/30910-FOXe-Report-Biodegradable-Motor-Oil
>> > > >
>> > > > Jeff
>> > > >
>> > >
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>> >
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