Wow , just got home from work ,72 emails in my inbox... doesn't anybody but me and Robb work around here? Paul Smith H.B.B T.C.B Transporters at the Point 7 October 8,9,and 10, 2010"Love all,trust a few,Do wrong to none" --- On Wed, 3/10/10, w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin > To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:19 PM > Okay, when it comes to "Green Oil" > no, however I will defer to somebody else to do that > testing. As for the Green movement and the planet, I'm > a Carlinista. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw > > > > > Right now I can't convince the FRA to turn off the > fricken locomotives when they're not in use, so I > don't think that Green Lubricating Oil will make much of > a difference. > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:22 PM, atx <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > From G oil to the sperm whale. The sperm whale > has additional scientific importance to us these days. > It's cells helped us figure out the molecular > structure of hemoglobin, that oxygen carrying component of > our red blood cells. > > Will--what do you think of Green motor oil, have > you done any research? > Sorry if this can of worms filled your inbox > today. > > Jeff > sent via iPhone > > > On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:34 PM, "w.wood" <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > That's the theory and is based on what Gene > Berg did a long time ago. Gene came out and said he tested > it and it didn't cool the engine as well, so it became > biblical. From all of the data I've seen over the past > 15 years the > convection argument is mute, both pull heat out of the > engine and synthetics can reduce heat more because they > allow less friction in the engine. For me: > > > 1) They lubricate better > 2) I can run a thinner weight oil for any given condition > without them becoming as thin as water when at operating > temps. I also don't worry about the temps for the most > part. Just drive it. > > > 3) Longer Duration between changes, run a filter. If > you're running without a filter, you need to change the > oil more frequently anyway to get rid of the crap that > starts to build > within the oil, so going to Synthetic starts to make less > technical vs. economic sense at that point. I tend to want > the best I can get because parts are not cheap. If you > haven't priced or found Okrasa 86mm cranks, you'll > know what I'm talking about. In three of my ACVWs I > run bypass filters that really clean out the gunk as well. > The 52 runs synthetic, the 59 and the do as well. > > > > The other part of the argument is that not a lot of folks > publish their test results based on standard testing, AMS as > well as Royal Purple both publish information > > > http://www.synthetic-motor-oil-change-and-filters.com/amsoil_articles/mineral-petrolium-oil-compared-to-synthetic/ > > > > So, YMMV, if you're happy with petro-oil go with it, > but synthetics are also base petro-oils with modified > molecular chains. > > > > On Wed, Mar > 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > I think it > has more to do with the synthetics holding onto the heat. > > > Dino oils are supposedly better at dissipating heat. > > I've been running 10w30 for a long time. > > > > w.wood wrote: > > > "generally the aircooled vw > > > doesn't like synthetics." > > > > > > Yes, we all know motor oil hasn't evolved in the > past 50 years and > > > what sludge was good in the 1930s is now still > applicable in terms of > > > molecular technology. The troglodytes will still > hold onto their > > > beliefs. "Yeah run 50W straight.. That > works." Nobody of course > > > realizes how truly thick straight 50 is nor how much > power it robs > > > just to pump it through the engine, but again, it was > good for grandpa.. > > > > > > Unfortunately all ACVWs are becoming antiques so I > guess the antique > > > mantra should still be upheld. Does anybody know > where a good old > > > Sperm Whale is? I need to lubricate my torsion > bars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > wrote: > > > > > > If you don't believe me, repost that topic > on TheSamba. > > > Serious stuff. > > > Basically everybody likes what they like, and > generally the > > > aircooled vw > > > doesn't like synthetics. > > > > > > ATX BUS wrote: > > > > A motor oil debate is akin to politics and > religion? Wow, that's a > > > > serious can of worms. > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > > > *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > *Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 1:03:07 PM > > > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from > Austin > > > > > > > > All I know is the oil debate is long and > heated, akin to > > > politics and > > > > religion. > > > > > > > > ATX BUS wrote: > > > > > Anyone ever ran their aircooled v-dub > on Green (biodegradable) > > > motor > > > > > oil. Sounds like it would be a good > idea, easy to do and > > > better for > > > > > the environment. > > > > > > > > > > Here is a quick link. The video > mirrors the text so you don't > > > have to > > > > > watch to get the idea. The only > question I have is the mechanic > > > > > states, "better for your car, > better for the environmment." I > > > wonder > > > > > how he would support the better for > you car claim? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/30910-FOXe-Report-Biodegradable-Motor-Oil > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > My Email Moniker > > > http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,1570570433.aspx > > > > > > > > > > -- > My Email Moniker > http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,1570570433.aspx > > > > > > > > > -- > My Email Moniker > http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,1570570433.aspx > >