[tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
- From: Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:59:14 -0600
Ruh roh!
Pandora's box hath been opened.
sammie smith wrote:
> You got him started! Will sounds like the guy in our club who will
> talk for 4 hours non-stop about oil.
>
> --- On *Wed, 3/10/10, w.wood /<evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: w.wood <evil.scientist.boo@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 3:34 PM
>
> That's the theory and is based on what Gene Berg did a long time
> ago. Gene came out and said he tested it and it didn't cool the
> engine as well, so it became biblical. From all of the data I've
> seen over the past 15 years the convection argument is mute, both
> pull heat out of the engine and synthetics can reduce heat more
> because they allow less friction in the engine. For me:
>
> 1) They lubricate better
> 2) I can run a thinner weight oil for any given condition without
> them becoming as thin as water when at operating temps. I also
> don't worry about the temps for the most part. Just drive it.
> 3) Longer Duration between changes, run a filter. If you're
> running without a filter, you need to change the oil more
> frequently anyway to get rid of the crap that starts to build
> within the oil, so going to Synthetic starts to make less
> technical vs. economic sense at that point. I tend to want the
> best I can get because parts are not cheap. If you haven't priced
> or found Okrasa 86mm cranks, you'll know what I'm talking about.
> In three of my ACVWs I run bypass filters that really clean out
> the gunk as well. The 52 runs synthetic, the 59 and the do as well.
>
> The other part of the argument is that not a lot of folks publish
> their test results based on standard testing, AMS as well as Royal
> Purple both publish information
>
>
>
> http://www.synthetic-motor-oil-change-and-filters.com/amsoil_articles/mineral-petrolium-oil-compared-to-synthetic/
>
> So, YMMV, if you're happy with petro-oil go with it, but
> synthetics are also base petro-oils with modified molecular chains.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
>
> I think it has more to do with the synthetics holding onto the
> heat.
> Dino oils are supposedly better at dissipating heat.
> I've been running 10w30 for a long time.
>
> w.wood wrote:
> > "generally the aircooled vw
> > doesn't like synthetics."
> >
> > Yes, we all know motor oil hasn't evolved in the past 50
> years and
> > what sludge was good in the 1930s is now still applicable in
> terms of
> > molecular technology. The troglodytes will still hold onto
> their
> > beliefs. "Yeah run 50W straight.. That works." Nobody of
> course
> > realizes how truly thick straight 50 is nor how much power
> it robs
> > just to pump it through the engine, but again, it was good
> for grandpa..
> >
> > Unfortunately all ACVWs are becoming antiques so I guess the
> antique
> > mantra should still be upheld. Does anybody know where a
> good old
> > Sperm Whale is? I need to lubricate my torsion bars.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Eric Woodall
> <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > If you don't believe me, repost that topic on TheSamba.
> > Serious stuff.
> > Basically everybody likes what they like, and generally the
> > aircooled vw
> > doesn't like synthetics.
> >
> > ATX BUS wrote:
> > > A motor oil debate is akin to politics and religion?
> Wow, that's a
> > > serious can of worms.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > *From:* Eric Woodall <eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > > *To:* tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <http://us.mc833.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Sent:* Wed, March 10, 2010 1:03:07 PM
> > > *Subject:* [tcb] Re: Tree hugger from Austin
> > >
> > > All I know is the oil debate is long and heated, akin to
> > politics and
> > > religion.
> > >
> > > ATX BUS wrote:
> > > > Anyone ever ran their aircooled v-dub on Green
> (biodegradable)
> > motor
> > > > oil. Sounds like it would be a good idea, easy to
> do and
> > better for
> > > > the environment.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a quick link. The video mirrors the text so
> you don't
> > have to
> > > > watch to get the idea. The only question I have is
> the mechanic
> > > > states, "better for your car, better for the
> environmment." I
> > wonder
> > > > how he would support the better for you car claim?
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
> http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/30910-FOXe-Report-Biodegradable-Motor-Oil
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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>
>
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>
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