They are the same. I've got one around somewhere. How bad do you want one cause it will take a lot of looking on my part. ________________________________ From: Fred McDonald <texasbluebus@xxxxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, April 14, 2010 10:37:44 AM Subject: [tcb] Heater Valve I have been trying to complete the stock heating system on my bus. I have everything connected but the heater valve in the cab you use to open & close the system needs to be replaced. I need a complete working valve including the handle. Lyle Cherry has been working on this for me but is not been able to find one. He thinks the beetle & bus are the same.