[survived-dfw] Answers to Emil's questions on Email Marketing and Courses

  • From: Damn Fine Words <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: survived-dfw <survived-dfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 10:32:52 -0500

Hello all,

Now that I seem to be back on the right path to good health (not quite
there yet, but I can see a faint light, so I'm heading towards it!), it's
time for me to answer Emil's questions.  (I'll also post them to the forum,
if I can manage to locate the thread.)

Emil wrote:





*I've got a question for you, fellows. (James, your opinion would be much
appreciated also, after you're recovered from the cold) It's about email
marketing. Now that I've learned how to write, I am going to regularly post
on my website, but I also want to start to do email marketing to my list
(which is small, but it will grow faster after I actually write more on the
blog AND send them emails). I didn't do any mailing until now. I received
some free email courses on email marketing from GetResponse, AppSumo, and
Natalie Lussier, but didn't study them yet. I plan to do so after setting
my editorial calendar and starting to write posts regularly.*

James answers:

There are some students to whom I sometimes recommend a follow-up course,
but to be quite frank, very few in this group (and none of you reading
this) need it.

You see, learning is great, and valuable... but there's a time to stop
learning, and start doing. You must DO something with what you've learned,
or else you just fall into a pattern of continual learning that only leads
to procrastination on the actual doing part that gets you places.

I'll be honest: there are a lot of people out there who make their course
or ebook or whatever sound really good these days. And you could
continually fork over money thinking you've hit on THE thing that teaches
you what you need to do.

THE thing is your action. Not your learning. Not the next best coolest
sounding course. I've seen far too many people blow thousands and thousands
of dollars in my time, and they're still in the same place they were 5
years ago - learning lots!... but doing nothing with what they've learned.

There's very little difference between what you've learned in DFW and
applying it to email marketing. VERY little. Email marketing is essentially
sending articles to your list that engage them, build trust and that steer
them towards eventually taking the action you want them to take.

You've learned that. Now go use it.

*1. Do you think it is enough to know how to clearly convey a message
through writing (DFW style) and there is no need for learning "specialized"
email marketing training? Or do you thing that is more efficient to take a
course on email marketing? A course in email marketing may not be all about
writing, it may have swipe files with some email templates, headlines, etc.*

Swipe files are nice, but to be honest, you can spend a small fortune on
swipe files - everyone's putting out one that's slightly different from the
next guy, but they all say the same thing.

And frankly, swipe files mean this: "I don't have to understand what I'm
doing. I don't have to think. I just have to fill in the blanks." That's
quite nice when you're in a rush, but you guys all understand what you're
doing, and you don't really need any swipe files.

So they can be handy, yes. Do you need them? No.

*2. If you think a course on email marketing would be a good idea, can you
recommend me one?*

To be honest, I've been looking, and I haven't found one yet that I can
recommend beyond a doubt. "Inbox Dojo: 12 months of email blueprints to
fuel your sales engine" is not too bad at all, if you'd like to grab
something with templates that fuel your ideas, but... yeah.

(Note: I got Inbox Dojo off App Sumo way back; I don't know if it's still
available for purchase, but it's likely you can find it through a Google
Search.)

Most email marketing courses I've seen will teach you what you already
know. They'll say it in different words, perhaps, but it all means the same
thing in the end, and it's unlikely you'll find something that teaches you
something new and useful that you didn't already know.

*3. Can you take a look at this email marketing course offer I received
from Derek Johanson and Ian Stanley and tell me what do you think about it?
The sales page is here:http://8020emailcopy.com <http://8020emailcopy.com>
, but I attach also one email from them which contains some more
information.*

Looking over the list of what you'll learn, you've learned 90% of that in
DFW already, so this won't be new. Just different, or presented in
different words.

That said, if you have money to spare and are curious, the price point is
okay.

What's interesting is that his offer is only available to 20 people and
"not false scarcity" - I quote. And yet it's been over 2 weeks and the
offer is still there, so that means either 20 people didn't buy or that his
"only 20" is a crock.

This doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things and doesn't
devalue the actual product he sells, but it does mean he's a sly one full
of sweet words. Takes a little bit of the shine off it.

*These guys refer also to Autoresponder Madness (Andre Chaperon) -
http://autorespondermadness.com/ <http://autorespondermadness.com/> and
John McIntyre - http://www.themcmethod.com/ <http://www.themcmethod.com/>,
or Ryan Deiss - http://www.digitalmarketer.com/the-email-machine/
<http://www.digitalmarketer.com/the-email-machine/>, when comparing their
course with the other guys in the market.*

I know of John McIntyre, and while I've not seen his product in action with
my own eyes, I've seen enough to know that this might be worth a peek. But
again... you won't be learning anything new. You'll just have different
tools and resources on hand to do what you need to do.

In other words... it's the doing that matters now, not the learning, unless
you want to use learning as a method to put aside the doing for a little
while longer.

Without wanting to throw my own hat in the ring (but that's kind of exactly
what I'm doing here), if you're interested in more of the doing side of
things, and want to focus on taking action, without losing the learning
side of things, then the Damn Fine Writers Club might be a perfect match.

www. damnfinewritersclub.com

Peter and I are currently working to set up a 1$ trial offer that we'll
release in January, but the Club is currently active right now, with
members who've been part of it for 5 months and more, and you can join
right away if you'd like.

Also, on a final note, I've attached a handout that comes from the Damn
Fine Writers Club that might be useful for your email marketing goals.
There's a link to a webinar in the handout that you might not be able to
access without Club membership, but the rest of the handout should
definitely help orient you in the right direction.

Whew! Hope all that helps!!

Cheers,

James Chartrand
Damn Fine Words/Damn Fine Ebooks
www.damnfinewords.com

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