0204 MST, seems like I'm part night owl. I usually take a two hour
siesta so getting enough sleep, just not all at once
like I did when younger.
RR,
Your logic is flawed but you cannot see it and mostly likely never
will. I stated irrefutable proof but your hatred of the Jews
have blinded you from having the ability to discern truth from fiction.
Continue on with your diatribes.
As for me I think I will try and find a forum for Deism**since that was
the belief of many of those intellectual giants
who wrote our glorious constitution.
**Belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator
who does not intervene in the universe.
The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and
18th centuries that accepted the existence of
a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural
deity who interacts with humankind.
*“We have abundant reason to rejoice, that, in this land, the light of
truth and reason has triumphed over the power of **
**bigotry and superstition, and that every person may here worship God
according to the dictates of his own heart. In this **
**enlightened age, & in this land of equal liberty, it is our boast,
that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection **
**of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining & holding the
highest offices that are known in the United States.” **
**George Washington*
It's sad to see the ideals much blood has been shed over now be freely
given up by those who willingly plunge back into
the abyss of bigotry and superstition.
RG
On 9/19/2016 5:14 PM, Ron Ristad wrote:
RG,
Sorry, but that's just not true. Back then, like most people, I believed the holocaust story and I got most of my news from the mainstream media. I used to believe, just like you, that people who criticized Jews were just the white trash losers that the mainstream media portrays them as, and that were people who belonged to Christian cults like the KKK that were taught from childhood to (irrationally) hate Jews. I believed that because that is what I had been told by the mainstream media, even though I had never actually met anybody like that. It never really concerned me since I am not Jewish and so I never really gave it that much thought. I just assumed it was true because that is what I had been told by the mainstream media since I was a child.
I even had friends who directed me to websites that blamed Jews for many things and my response to them was that these websites were just people who hated Jews. It never occurred to me to ask what reason these people could possibly have to make them hate Jews. I could understand why a Palestinian might hate Jews but not a white American. It never even occurred to me that these people were not preaching hate but just the opposite, that it was Jews who were preaching hate, calling white people racists. I never heard a Christian call anybody a Christian hater or a racist.
Jews claim that people who don't believe the holocaust story are committing a hate crime. How can it be a hate crime to not believe horrible accusations made against people with absolutely no proof to back it up? Since when is it a crime to believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt?
As far as people agreeing with me I could care less. I am merely stating things the way I see them. A few years ago even I wouldn't have agreed with me. I am just happy that now I understand many things that I never understood before. I see things much clearer now. I know who to believe and who not to believe.
I have no emotion whatsoever about Jews, Muslims or any other race religion. I just know that their cultures are different than mine so I don't expect them to share many of my beliefs. If their cultures were not different then they wouldn't be Jews or Muslims. It is their culture that makes them what they are. I respect their cultures and only ask that they respect mine.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: R George
Sent: Sep 19, 2016 4:57 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Fwd: Do you know what today is?
Then how is it that you are still posting here?
ARAnet is NOT for politics because we lost around 10 subscribers
who objected
to your ranting about the Jews. My solution was to have totally
free speech
here on Sparks Coffee Break. Tell us more how "HOW JEWS ARE
DESTROYING AMERICA".
FYI: If you notice you NO longer get responses to your posts then
it might just be that the
audience has left the building.
Hello, Jew haters, speak up now. CQ CQ
RG
On 9/19/2016 2:46 PM, Ron Ristad wrote:
RG,
I don't hate anybody. That's just what Jews call anybody who does
not agree with them. Jews claim pornography is a right of free
speech but holocaust deniers in many countries are sent to prison.
You yourself just expressed the right to pornography but have
kicked people off the ARA net because they didn't agree with your
politics. You only believe in free speech when you are one who is
doing the speaking.
If Israel wants to have a Jewish culture that's fine by me. If
Saudi Arabia wants to have Sharia Law that's fine by me too. Just
don't come to my country and try to destroy my culture.
Muslims, Jews, communists, and even Catholics (the Spanish
Inquisition) do not believe in the Christian non-aggression
principle. They believe in control and forcing people to accept
their beliefs, in many cases to the extent of murdering those who
do not accept their beliefs. That is what drove many people to
America.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: R George
Sent: Sep 19, 2016 2:42 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Fwd: Do you know what today is?
RR,
Your hatred of Jews has altered your thinking so that you no
longer can discern truth from fiction.
Birds of a feather flock together.
Good luck with your life.
RG
On 9/19/2016 1:16 PM, Ron Ristad wrote:
It means that the government cannot be a theocracy as in the
case of Jews, Muslims and Catholics. It never gave the
government the power to prohibit school prayer or prohibit
the exercise of any religion by anybody.
The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights are Christian
inventions that are based on the non-aggression principle.
They could never exist in any country ruled by a theocracy.
Under the U.S. Constitution Muslims are allowed to practice
Islam and have the same rights as Christians as long as they
don't try to force their beliefs, such as Sharia Law on
other people.
Likewise Jews are allowed to practice Judaism and have the
same rights as Christians as long as they don't try to
change our laws to suit their culture.
The article below illustrates how many people believe that
Jews are trying to destroy the American Christian culture.
HOW JEWS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA
1. The Jews have emasculated our nation by destroying our
pride in America’s Christian history. Without a commonly
held memory a nation ceases to exist as a cohesive unit.
2. The Jews have labeled America’s Christian Founding
Fathers as “racists” and “white slavers” while at the same
time suppressing the fact that Jews financed and
participated in the Black slave trade and that the United
States was one of the first countries in the world to
abolish slavery.
3. The Jews have promoted multiculturalism, celebrating
every culture — no matter how backward and barbaric — except
for Western white European culture. As Jewish feminist Susan
Sontag, (originally named Susan Rosenblatt), stated: “The
white race is the cancer of humanity.” But Susan Rosenblatt
Sontag’s own cancerous contagion is her lesbian perversity
with photographer Annie Leibovitz and Nicole Stephane
Rothschild, the banking heiress turned movie actress.
4. The Jews have driven our Christian heritage from the
public square through the efforts of the Jewish Lobby
Groups, the ADL and the ACLU. American children will grow up
in a society wiped clean of any vestiges of the Bible,
Christ or the Cross. However, the Menorah is still allowed
in public displays and in the White House for Hannukah
celebrations.
5. The Jews have torn our borders open, permitting, indeed
cheering, the Third World immigrants who will soon replace
the white Christian American majority. The Jacob Javitzes
and the Lautenbergs have designed legislation that will
genocide us. They have done all this while simultaneously
supporting Israel’s “Jews-only” immigration policy.
6. The Jews have pushed, created and profited from
pornography and perverse entertainment. The “chosen people”
make up 90% of all American pornographers. The Hollywood
they run has mainstreamed wife-swapping, common law
marriages, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism,
transvestitism, pedophilia, drug and alcohol abuse and
self-indulgence. Bestiality will be next on the list for
these society-corrupting Jews.
7. The Jews have brought homosexuality out of the closet and
into our faces through numerous “rights” legislations.
Sodomy is shown in their Jewish controlled media and movies
as normal, healthy, enjoyable and something to celebrate
openly in as brazen a fashion as possible. Six year old
children in our Public Schools are shown videos promoting
anal sex between males. The Jews have founded, funded and
fronted every homosexual advocacy group in America.
8. The Jews have brainwashed American children in other
areas besides sexual depravity. With their control of the
Public Educational System and Collegiate level academia,
they have filled the minds of the young with Marxism,
Deconstructionism, relativism, anti-White hatred, and lies
about “diversity” and non-judgmentalism. These sundry isms
are the pernicious lies that have jettisoned the positive
isms that once bloomed in our society: absolutism,
patriotism, altruism, individualism, nationalism, etc.
9. The Jews have subverted our government. With Zionist
control of the media, both print and television, the two
major political parties have been steered away from the
interests of the European-American majority, rendering us
incapable of self-preservation. The war in Iraq, the 9/11
attacks and a possible clash with Iran in the near future,
are all results of the Zionist subjugation of the most
powerful nation on earth, and the prioritizing of Israel’s
concerns over those of the United States.
10. The Jews have brought radical feminism to American women
and girls. Thanks to the steady diet of anti-male,
anti-marriage and anti-family books, lectures and college
courses from the likes of the Gloria Steinems, the Betty
Friedans, and the Susan Sontags, many women now see the
prospect of marriage and child-rearing as an impediment to
their liberation.
11. The Jews have made abortion into a sacrament. Planned
Parenthood and the National Abortion Rights Action League
(NARAL) is run from top to bottom by Jews. Unregulated
abortion on demand is touted in the Jewish controlled Media
as a positive social good for the United States. With a
large percentage of abortion doctors being Jewish, the Jews
have definitely made a killing out of killing.
12. The Jews have sold us the packaged lies of
egalitarianism. All are equal in intelligence, morality,
accomplishments — except of course, for one group. The
Jewish “race” as their own leaders refer to their people, is
covertly declared as being uniquely moral and wise. The Jews
truly believe they have a God-given right to rule over us.
To criticize their pernicious power is the most egregious
societal taboo resulting in being blackballed as being,
“Anti-Semitic!”
Everything on this list can be easily verified. Jews, mostly
Zionists, have spearheaded every movement that now threatens
our destruction. Jews have extended their tentacles into all
facets of our country squeezing every vestige of wholesome
life out of America.
-----Original Message-----
From: R George
Sent: Sep 19, 2016 11:54 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Fwd: Do you know what today is?
DR/RR,
FYI: When I use the word Constitution I include the Bill
of Rights because the 1st 10 were ratified the year
following full
ratification of the Constitution. 1790/1791.
*Amendment I**
**Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment
of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;**
*
Below is from the guy who had a little something to do
with the Constitution - *Thomas Jefferson.*
“… I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of
the whole American people which declared that their
legislature
should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of
religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof,’ *thus building a wall of separation
between Church and State.”* ~~ Letter to the Danbury
Baptists, January 1, 1802
“[E]very one must act according to the dictates of his
own reason, and mine tells me that civil powers alone
have been given to the
President of the U.S. *and no authority to direct the
religious exercises of his constituents.*” ~~ Letter to
Rev. Samuel Miller, January 23, 1808
“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a
priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil
government. *This marks the lowest grade of **
**ignorance of which their civil as well as religious
leaders will always avail themselves for their own
purposes.”* ~~ letter to Alexander von Humboldt,
December 6, 1813
And an excerpt from a favorite founding father of mine -
*Thomas Paine (Age of Reason)**
*
*"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish
church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the
Turkish church, by the Protestant church, **
**nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my
own church.**
**
**All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish,
Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human
inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, **
**and monopolize power and profit.**
**
**I do not mean by this declaration to condemn those who
believe otherwise; they have the same right to their
belief as I have to mine. But it is necessary to **
**the happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to
himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in
disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what
he does not believe.**
*
It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I
may so express it, that mental lying has produced in
society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted
the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his
professional belief to things he does not believe, he
has prepared himself for the commission of every other
crime.
*He takes up the trade of a priest for the sake of gain,
and in order to qualify himself for that trade, he
begins with a perjury. Can we conceive any thing more
destructive to morality than this?*
Soon after I had published the pamphlet Common Sense, in
America, I saw the exceeding probability that a
revolution in the system of government would be followed
by a revolution in the system of religion. The
adulterous connection of church and state, wherever it
had taken place, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish,
had so
effectually prohibited by pains and penalties, every
discussion upon established creeds, and upon first
principles of religion, that until the system of
government should
be changed, those subjects could not be brought fairly
and openly before the world; but that whenever this
should be done, a revolution in the system of religion
would
follow. Human inventions and priestcraft would be
detected; and man would return to the pure, unmixed and
unadulterated belief of one God, and no more.
Every national church or religion has established itself
by pretending some special mission from God,
communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their
Moses; the Christians their
Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks
their Mahomet, as if the way to God was not open to
every man alike.
Each of those churches show certain books, which they
call revelation, or the word of God. The Jews say, that
their word of God was given by God to Moses, face to
face; the Christians say,
that their word of God came by divine inspiration: and
the Turks say, that their word of God (the Koran) was
brought by an angel from Heaven. Each of those churches
accuse the other
of unbelief; *and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.**
*
As it is necessary to affix right ideas to words, I
will, before I proceed further into the subject, offer
some other observations on the word revelation.
Revelation, when applied to religion,
means something communicated immediately from God to man."
Continued here:
http://www.ushistory.org/paine/reason/reason1.htm
RG
On 9/16/2016 5:14 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
RR,
You're absolutely right on that one, Ron.
73
DR
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Ron Ristad
<ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Actually the separation of church and state is not
in the Constitution. This is an interpretation by
the Supreme Court. A future Supreme Court could
make a different interpretation.
The fact is that the Constitution and Bill of
Rights were written by Christians and are based on
Christian ideals. This is why it is not like Sharia
Law or the Talmud.
People who want to change it to make it more like
their culture and their religion claim that it was
designed so that it could change with changing
conditions but this is bullshit. That would be like
changing the Ten Commandments.
-RR, Sick of political correctness that I never
agreed to and sick of all the bullshit..
