[sparkscoffee] Re: Attention gun owners and non gun owners

  • From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:56:55 -0500

I found the Israeli Gun Laws - very reasonable.


Israel has some of the toughest gun restrictions in the world. The problem
is, the world doesn’t know that. For instance; To obtain a gun license, an
applicant must be a resident of Israel for at least three consecutive
years, have no criminal record, be in good health, have no history of
mental illness, pass a weapons-training course, and be over a certain age:

20 for women who completed military service or civil service equivalent
21 for men who completed military service or civil service equivalent
27 for those who did not complete military service or civil service
equivalent
45 for residents of East Jerusalem.
Gun licenses must be renewed every three years and permits are given only
for personal use, not for business in the firearms sale while HOLDERS FOR
SELF-DEFENSE PURPOSES MAY ONLY OWN ONE HANDGUN and MAY PURCHASE A MAXIMUM
OF FIFTY ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION A YEAR except for those shot at firing ranges.

73

DR

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:44 AM, John J. Miller <seaspark@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Just mentioning : I recall seeing pictures of Israeli citizens wearing
firearms while on picnics or other recreational activities.

J J Miller


On 12/14/2015 12:23 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

I am not nit picking. I just want to know what kind of arms they were
told or allowed to arm themselves with.

You said arms, not firearms.

Arms consists of weapons, including firearms.

I thought private firearms were prohibited, I believe you told us this.

Can Israeli citizens have firearms? If yes, is it all citizens, ir just
some?

I thought all citizen firearms were forbidden.

So update us on Israeli firearms.

Good for them if they can protect themselves from attacks.

73

DR
On Dec 13, 2015 6:01 PM, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC" <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DR
Sorry, you are nit picking, Israel citizens not only have arms and
those who don't are encouraged to get them and I suppose hand
guns are the most practical.

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Dec 13, 2015 1:47 am
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Attention gun owners and non gun owners

What did they tell them to arm themselves with? There are many types of
arms.
DR
On Dec 12, 2015 1:35 PM, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC" <
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DR
???, I remember the Israel government telling its citizens to arm
themselves when the knifing was going on?

Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. < <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2015 10:01 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Attention gun owners and non gun owners

Stan,

Israel has soldiers on every street corner because it does not permit
citizens to have guns.

I am sure that if the Israeli government permitted rifles and hand guns,
that the Israeli citizens would arm themselves.

I am wondering if Israel's not having guns has to do with the fact that
they have territories occupied by Palestinians who have vowed to kill
every Jew alive and yet have citizenship.

Maybe you can find out why they don't allow guns for protection.

I believe that if the Jews were armed in WW2 that Hitler and crew would
not have murdered them in concentration camps.

If Hitler was coming for Radio Officers, I'd buy the deadliest gun I
could and stand next to JS and RR and defend the unarmed R/Os on this list.

I think Lee would join us, how about the others?

73

DR

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC <
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"or like Israel we need policemen on street corners
with machine guns protecting the people as well."

Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. < <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee < <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2015 2:15 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Attention gun owners and non gun owners

Read my message again. Sheriff recommends those with firearm carry
licenses carry their firearms in public and be prepared to use them in
order to protect fellow citizens.
He agrees with you, but it means more guns not less.
73
DR
On Dec 11, 2015 12:33 PM, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC" <
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DR
Thanks for the response but too extreme and to expensive to have our
large country with police and the military patrolling all over.

Stanley


-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. < <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee < <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2015 1:31 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Attention gun owners and non gun owners

Good point, Stanley. At least one Sherrif has gone public with a
request that licenses to conceil carry carry with it to responsibility to
carry your firearm and has issued a press release asking people to carry
their firearms in public for then protection of the general public.
The recent California shooting took place in a "no gun zone" which
means that law abiding citizens did not carry any firearms with them.
The killers being criminals ignored the law.
We need people to carry their firearms in these troubled times, or
like Israel we need military on the street corners with machine guns
protecting the people as well.
73
DR
On Dec 10, 2015 11:40 AM, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC" <
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Everyone .
I was thinking how many gun owners carry their guns whenever they
leave their homes?

How do you like the idea of walking in the street, going to school, a
party, shopping,
church, biking, sport events, concerts, etc knowing that all the
adults are carrying guns,
hidden or open? Think what could happen when people get into an
argument, how
about the poor desperate for money? Remember the comedian Roger Pryer
who joked
that when he was unemployed he was thinking of getting a gun to make
a living?Think
what effect this would have on families with small children and
teenagers and world
opinion?

Obviously mass shooters are not going to attack homes so even those
in Paris and here
are not going to be protected by gun owners who left their guns at
home which shoots down
one big argument for buying guns. Think of what it means to take a
gun along with your wallet
every time you leave your house? It is not a simple matter as many
think it is.

Stanley the sissy non gun owner using the pen


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