Uri, Mitch, You don't need to mess with your material.dat file; adding a layer of FR4 works. Before you do your testing, delete your interconn.iml file; you want to make sure Allegro re-computes the parasitics. I opened a test board I have, selected "DISPLAY/PARASITICS", and clicked on a trace on the top layer and got: 57.113 ohms 36.207 nH 11.1 pF 0.633954 nS I then removed the FR4 layer and did the "DISPLAY/PARASITICS" thing again: 64.334 ohms 36.2065 nH 8.74793 pF 0.562789 nS To me this says everything changed about the right amount in the right direction. Aubrey Sparkman Enterprise Engineering Signal Integrity Team Dell, Inc. Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx (512) 723-3592 > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mitch S. Morey > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:48 AM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Layout Cross Section > > > Hi Uri, > > Before you get into material.dat file, and the parameters and > what-not, I > experimented with changing some variables in my stackup and > the impedance > DIDN'T change. I tried FR4 over top; conformal coat; etc; changed > thicknesses; Dk and when I do DISPLAY/PARASITICS on my Clines nothing > changes. Might be worth your time to experiment first. :) > > Mitch > > > > Hi ! > > Thanks for all answer me Kim, Mitch ( nice joke :) and Jeff. > > Do you know what parameters of soldermask ? > > Now I know that possible edit material.dat and now I need > to do this. > > Uri > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Seeger [mailto:jseeger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:38 PM > > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Layout Cross Section > > > > > > Uri Chaplianka wrote: > >> > >> snip < > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This email was sent using DACafeMail. > Get Your FREE 10 MB eMail Account Now. > http://cafemail.pcbcafe.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu