Steven, How large was the pad you used for the ball? I've seen a recommended value of 0.33mm (13 mil) diameter and can't seem to fit anything larger than a 10 mil escape via (20 mil via pad) at 5/5 (or 6/6) mil track/space so how did you achieve your 12 mil via? Doing the numbers you seem to have used 0.27 mm (10.5 mil) for the ball diameter and I'm wondering whether that's on the edge of yields/reliability for 0.8 mm BGAs because I'm facing a large premium going from 12 to 10 mil vias. Please let me know what you think when you have a chance. Thanks a lot. Regards, Vincenzo -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Chavez [mailto:stephen.chavez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:14 PM To: tayyab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] 0.8mm BGA routing Tayyab, I just finished a design with a 896 pin BGA (Xilinx) with 0.8mm pitch. I used 5mil trace width, 5mil spacing and Via: 24mil pad with 12mil hole. I have done the research and this is what Xilinx recommended. It works fine. I have designed with this configuration on a 10 layer board. I have even went down to a Via with 20mil pad and 10mil hole. This worked fine also. I checked with my board house to confirm this before I started my design. Feel free to get back to me if you have any questions. Good luck. Regards, Stephen V. Chavez PCB Designer Vista Systems -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tayyab Jamil Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 4:50 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] 0.8mm BGA routing Hello, I am currently working on a design where a 0.8 mm pitch BGA package is used. Can any one suggest me the design configuration i.e trace width/spce and specially the via size and via hole, which i should follow and manufacturers can handle this. Regards Tayyab Jamil Qureshi Sr. Design Engineer CARE Pvt. Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu