In a message dated 08/08/2005 2:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, PUD709@xxxxxxx writes: Heaven only knoes who they show it to-a good bet is prospective novice puppiy buyers or stud service. You'd be surprised how people who dont know any better react. Do you think they ask how many were in the class? This is so true too. At a recent show, I saw an owner go in the ring with her TP. I felt so sorry for this lady, not only was she dressed and groomed herself so sloppy, but her little Poodle was just as bad. The only thing even remotely correct was his trim, but he was hardly brushed and not done up in the way you expect to see a Poodle to be in the ring. I commented to my TP's handler if she'd seen her before, thinking surely she just was a novice needing some guidance. She proceeded to tell me how she comes to mostly the local shows, and over the years everyone has offered to show her how to groom, and even going so far as offering to get her dog ready to go in the ring and even handle it. She's always refused any help. So its pretty clear her only motive is to go in the easiest class possible...in this case the novice class, which in the breed is always pretty empty..and over time she walks away with 3 nice blue ribbons per dog to impress her puppy buyers with. On this day she did get a blue ribbon too, sad part is the dog may not have been half bad, but who could tell with it being so ungroomed :-( Yvonne creekvue.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================