I am sure I do not understand thses e-mails partaining to a blue ribbon. When you enter a dog show it is in hopes of going winners.......If the dog does not meet the standards of the judge for first place so be it....If you don't like it DON'T SHOW UNDER THAT JUDGE AGAIN!!!!...The judge did not decide to withhold a ribbon just because he(or she) had nothing better to do....If it really bothers you, at the end of the show, take the dog with you to the judge and ask why the ribbon was withheld..I am sure most judges will be glad to tell you. Judy Judsohn German Shepherds judsohngsd.@xxxxxxx Visit our website judsohngsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx> To: <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx>; <kennadale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "showgsds" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: withholding > IMO withholding a ribbon is mean spirited particularly when there is only > one dog in the class. If the judge wants to make a statement, I'd rather > see him/her say something directly to the person about the quality of the > dog rather than make a public spectical of the individual and their dog in > front of everyone. > > Now, withholding points is another story > ************************************************* > > I disagree with you on this one. I don't think it is making a statement I > think it is keeping the dog out of the Winners class. A blue ribbon is the > dogs tickets to winners and if you are giving him the blue then in my > opinion you make a fool of yourself as a judge if you withhold the points. > If it is good enough for a blue to come back in winners then it should > certainly be good enough for the points since you already confirmed him to > return to winners class. > > IMHO > > Lee Brown > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================