I hate to tell you, but the judge is supposed to know if you are showing your dog correctly for its breed...not looking for the dog who stands out. Judges who understand the very concept of Junior Showmanship are responsible for knowing how breeds other than their own are to be presented...it's even in the Guidelines for Junior Showmanship Judges. There is nothing there about picking the stand out dogs...in fact, the judge isn't supposed to consider the dogs, just does the Junior present the dog properly. Unfortunately, it is fairly common for a new judge to ask for Juniors along with the first breed they ask for...that gives them more to do at a show and often increases the amount the new judge gets paid (they often get paid by the entry, which includes the kids)...and they have no bloody clue how to show, for example, a Pekingese or a Corgi, either. You should remember the name of that judge and not give her an entry ever again. She doesn't deserve it--looking for flash and dash instead of what's right! Also unfortunately, most judges see a Junior topping and tailing a gundog and that's where they go for first place...even when the kid is tripping over their own feet. They don't know how different table breeds are set up, either, all too often, and will fault someone with a Corgi (for example) when the dog's front is set up correctly............. and too many times the Juniors judges completely disregard a Junior with a German Shepherd Dog, too! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Peggy MissJrHandlerGSD@xxxxxxx wrote: > >what about the kids who cant afford to have a dog and then get one that >doesn't show as well as you would hope like all the other juniors push button >dogs? I can't show a shepherd in jrs like how Patty said. I love my corgi and >she loves me, but she's not flashy. Watch the juniors ring and look at those >dogs. thats why I didn't do anything in juniors yesterday. I did an awesome >dog >and ginger did everything I would have hope for her to do she looked happy >and had a good time. We didn't do anything because (quote from the judge) my >dog didn't stand out to her. I would love to show a shepherd in jrs, but my >house is just too small and we can't afford to have another dog. So I'm stuck, > >thats why I don't go to as many specialties as I would like. > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================