There is a very good reason for that ruling.....It is to have the junior that is showing the dog, train, show, groom, feed etc that dog....It is very unfair for a junior to be able to take a dog into the ring for junior showmanship after the dog has been shown and trained by a professional handler....that type of dog hardly needs a handler on him(or her).....and that type of dog can make almost any handler look very good what about the kids who cant afford to have a dog and then get one that doesn't show as well as you would hope like all the other juniors push button dogs? I can't show a shepherd in jrs like how Patty said. I love my corgi and she loves me, but she's not flashy. Watch the juniors ring and look at those dogs. thats why I didn't do anything in juniors yesterday. I did an awesome dog and ginger did everything I would have hope for her to do she looked happy and had a good time. We didn't do anything because (quote from the judge) my dog didn't stand out to her. I would love to show a shepherd in jrs, but my house is just too small and we can't afford to have another dog. So I'm stuck, thats why I don't go to as many specialties as I would like. <3 Melissa Chavez <3 (AKA Miss Jr. Handler) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================