[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Shoulders and shoulder layback in puppies

  • From: "Peggy" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:16:53 -0500

I agree with Jamie, and with Doris and her dad.  If you know your lines and 
chosen your stud dog well, you should be able to pick 'em wet.  Long necks, 
for sure.   Picking them up and letting the legs fall naturally shows 
something, too...and that has to be done while they're wet, because as soon 
as they dry off, the "wiggle factor" comes into it...and that letting the 
legs hang won't work.
Barring something completely out of your control, it should work.    For 
instance, there is always the Jesus factor, ...you know, just when you think 
you've finally got it exactly right, God will make a change...and there's 
nothing you can do about that.
    For myself, there's a bit of a "gut feeling" about it all...I find that 
when you think about it too long, you go wrong........
Peggy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doris E" <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx>
Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx wrote:
>>>
>>>Jess, I like to "think" I can pick my shoulders when they are wet-born.
>>>They lie there wet and flaccid, the little skeletons outlined for you to 
>>>see
>>>length of bones and how they correspond, etc.  I'm always glad to see a 
>>>new-born
>>>with (what appears to be) an exaggerated length of neck because they will
>>>usually have a good neck and layback.  Just my observation....but then, 
>>>I'm
>>>"nutty" too.  <VBG>

and Doris E, irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>*My dad was a long-time breeder.  He always said the time to look was 
>>immediately.  In other words,"read'em wet". I have found this to be mostly 
>>helpful through the years. Mostly, because nothing is absolute. There have 
>>been times this does not apply, but most of the time it does. Of course it 
>>is helpful to have knowledge of your bloodlines, both sides. He always 
>>looked for a long neck. Doris E* 

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