[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: New answer. judges & future judges

  • From: "robert dir" <dir@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <domara4@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:57:35 -0500

Agree Barbara----
The National is to put up the best dog/bitch on that particular day.  No
breeding records, no pedigree etc..   Then judge cannot be responsible for
what these animals produce.  Sandi Card
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From: "barbarar" <domara4@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: New answer. judges & future judges


> I think the term "evaluate breeding stock" is a misnomer.
> Shows are a place to see the dogs that you would want to know more
> about..  Much more information should be sought.   How do you know that
> the "breeding stock" is not harboring  problems that it took you 30
> years to get rid of.     Beauty and Movement are just two of the
> criteria.    And who says we all see the dogs in
> the same light!
> barbara
>
> InquestGSD@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >
> >Fred says:
> >First do  we agree dog shows are a place to evaluate breeding stock.  The
> >judge is  saying with his/her top placing's these are the dogs that  in
my
> >opinion
> >should be used for breeding.
> >
> >Evan  says:
> >No.  I do not agree with this premise at all. The judge is  empowered  by
the
> >AKC to decide which dog comes closet to the standard  as set forth by the
> >parent club of that breed. It is presumptive to  say we as judges should
be
> >dictating who or what to do with breeding.  We are not privy to necessary
> >breeding
> >information such as pedigrees,  or health problems in the background of
the
> >dogs we judge.  We  are just the judge, we are not the breed  wardens.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Evan, Fred said that dog shows are a place to evaluate breeding stock. A
> >place, not THE place.  This is true, it is one of the places where we  do
that.
> >Not the only one (hopefully).  Dog shows are not the place  where we
CERTIFIED
> >breeding stock, in the US there is not breed warden, so  it is, or should
be,
> > the responsibility of those involved in doing  breedings (stud and brood
> >bitches owners alike) to secure the rest of the  information.
> >As you said, we are not privy to the rest of the necessary criteria.
> >But the fact remains, dog shows are one of the ways used to evaluate
> >breeding stock.
> >And yes, you can disagree with my correctness.  <G>
> >
> >Ileana
> >
> >
> >
> >
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