[rollei_list] Re: was NASA & Rollei
- From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:52:14 -0700
Yes, we have a joke out here about MB and BMWs. When you drop off your MB
for service, just to shake the mechanic's hand is a $100 charge. I almost
bought a Volvo until I saw what the cost of maintenance was. It was on par
with MB. Hence, no Volvo.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> A bit of local interest to the Boston area... In the 80s I worked with
> local anchor man Jack Williams, who had a nice 300 SEL 6.3. It was his
> every day car... ran reliably with routine maintenance. They were
> costly cars to keep going... just like all MBs. It was lighter than
> the 600s and performance was much better, though you are right, they
> were under-tired as were most cars of the era.
>
> The 600s needed a lot of TLC to run everyday, much more so than the 300s.
>
>
> Eric Goldstein
>
> --
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Austin Franklin
> <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > One of the 6.3s I had was an AMG version. It was claimed to have some
> 450+
> > HP. It was still 5000lbs though. None the less a very fun car. The
> > "original" 6.3s didn't have enough rubber on the road to make them as
> fast
> > off the line as they could be, though I believe they were 0-60 in 6.3
> > seconds (ironically enough). It was the 145+ top speed (with a good tune
> > and gas) that was "interesting", especially for a huge four door sedan.
> The
> > AMG was quite a bit faster.
> >
> > Practical isn't an adjective I'd ascribe to the 300, but I guess compared
> to
> > the 600, it's appropriate.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Austin
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric Goldstein
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:35 AM
> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: was NASA & Rollei
> >>
> >>
> >> The MB 600s were really beautiful cars. Then there was the 300 SEL
> >> 6.3... a more practical/reliable rocket.
> >>
> >>
> >> Eric Goldstein
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Austin Franklin
> >> <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Hi Eric,
> >> >
> >> > You're welcome. I've still got boxes of 6.3 and 600 parts...and all
> the
> >> > service manuals. The 6.3 was (and still is) one of my favorite cars.
> >> >
> >> > I'll have to look up that BMC suspension...never heard of it.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Austin
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric Goldstein
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:10 AM
> >> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: was NASA & Rollei
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yup. Absolutely right. Thanks for jogging my memory.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then there was the BMC "Hydrolastic Suspension"... yet another tale
> >> >> of woe and intrigue...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Eric Goldstein
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Austin Franklin
> >> >> <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Eric,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> American mechanics never got Citroens. The hydraulics were not a
> >> >> >> problem for French and other European mechanics. Complex, yes.
> >> >> >> Daunting, no. MB 600s of the time also had hydraulic suspensions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The 600 (and 300/109 series) suspensions were air, not
> >> >> hydraulic. These air
> >> >> > suspensions worked fine when they worked, but being rubber for
> >> >> the airbags,
> >> >> > they deteriorated easily, and the rest of the system required
> >> >> maintenance
> >> >> > above and beyond typical regular maintenance. When they
> >> >> failed, well, they
> >> >> > failed...and you rode home on the bump stops. Lots of the 300
> >> >> series were
> >> >> > converted to coil spring, unfortunately, when the air
> >> suspension failed.
> >> >> > The 600s weren't typically...at least I've never seen a
> >> >> converted 600. But
> >> >> > those are typically owned by a much wealthier crowd.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Austin
> >> >> >
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