[rollei_list] Re: was NASA & Rollei
- From: Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:54:29 -0400
A bit of local interest to the Boston area... In the 80s I worked with
local anchor man Jack Williams, who had a nice 300 SEL 6.3. It was his
every day car... ran reliably with routine maintenance. They were
costly cars to keep going... just like all MBs. It was lighter than
the 600s and performance was much better, though you are right, they
were under-tired as were most cars of the era.
The 600s needed a lot of TLC to run everyday, much more so than the 300s.
Eric Goldstein
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Austin Franklin
<austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> One of the 6.3s I had was an AMG version. It was claimed to have some 450+
> HP. It was still 5000lbs though. None the less a very fun car. The
> "original" 6.3s didn't have enough rubber on the road to make them as fast
> off the line as they could be, though I believe they were 0-60 in 6.3
> seconds (ironically enough). It was the 145+ top speed (with a good tune
> and gas) that was "interesting", especially for a huge four door sedan. The
> AMG was quite a bit faster.
>
> Practical isn't an adjective I'd ascribe to the 300, but I guess compared to
> the 600, it's appropriate.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
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>>
>>
>> The MB 600s were really beautiful cars. Then there was the 300 SEL
>> 6.3... a more practical/reliable rocket.
>>
>>
>> Eric Goldstein
>>
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Austin Franklin
>> <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi Eric,
>> >
>> > You're welcome. I've still got boxes of 6.3 and 600 parts...and all the
>> > service manuals. The 6.3 was (and still is) one of my favorite cars.
>> >
>> > I'll have to look up that BMC suspension...never heard of it.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Austin
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric Goldstein
>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:10 AM
>> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: was NASA & Rollei
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yup. Absolutely right. Thanks for jogging my memory.
>> >>
>> >> Then there was the BMC "Hydrolastic Suspension"... yet another tale
>> >> of woe and intrigue...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Eric Goldstein
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Austin Franklin
>> >> <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Eric,
>> >> >
>> >> >> American mechanics never got Citroens. The hydraulics were not a
>> >> >> problem for French and other European mechanics. Complex, yes.
>> >> >> Daunting, no. MB 600s of the time also had hydraulic suspensions.
>> >> >
>> >> > The 600 (and 300/109 series) suspensions were air, not
>> >> hydraulic. These air
>> >> > suspensions worked fine when they worked, but being rubber for
>> >> the airbags,
>> >> > they deteriorated easily, and the rest of the system required
>> >> maintenance
>> >> > above and beyond typical regular maintenance. When they
>> >> failed, well, they
>> >> > failed...and you rode home on the bump stops. Lots of the 300
>> >> series were
>> >> > converted to coil spring, unfortunately, when the air
>> suspension failed.
>> >> > The 600s weren't typically...at least I've never seen a
>> >> converted 600. But
>> >> > those are typically owned by a much wealthier crowd.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Austin
>> >> >
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