----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Shell" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: "different types of black boxes" (was: OT / prove it !) > > On Sunday, April 3, 2005, at 08:54 AM, Richard Knoppow > wrote: > >> The Contax shutter, AFAIK, was never duplicated in any >> other camera. > > It was duplicated in the Kiev cameras. > > Bob > > Did not Keiv have use of captured tooling? The fact is that the design of the Contax shutter is very well known but no modern camera maker has even tried to use it. OTOH, the Leica shutter is the basis of most 35mm cameras. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx