It is celebrated in Canada as Remembrance Day and is taken very seriously. Everyone wears a red poppy. Sam Anson, NJ ________________________________________ From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Lilley [54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:25 PM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Veterans' Day/Armistice Day/Remembrance Day Today I watched my town observe Veterans Day. Civil War, World War I and II re-enactors, antique military vehicles, kids in various uniforms and of course the town fire truck followed up with the ubiquitous guys on Harley's with MIA flags. What fun they were all having! My three sons and I are all war veterans. We don't want to be recognized or partake in the above - for us a moment of silence at the 11 hour of the 11 month is all that is needed - for the stillness of guns and the quiet of the dead remembered. Rob -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc James Small Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:52 PM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Veterans' Day/Armistice Day/Remembrance Day The Armistice which ended the First World War went into effect at 11:00 AM on 11 NOV 1918, Zone Time. As a result, 11 NOV has become a holiday in the Allied and Associated Nations. The French celebrate it. The Belgians celebrate it. The British and the nations which constitute their shards of Empire celebrate it. And the USians celebrate it. It is a day dedicated to different things in different lands. In the US, it is a day to honor the contributions of all US veterans -- we celebrate our war dead and wounded in May, on Memorial Day. In other nations, it is a day more focused on those killed or wounded in the service of their nations. I am a veteran of military service, having been involved in the US forces in some form directly from 1968 until 1994, when I was retired from our Army Reserve about the time this List got revved up, back in 1994. I am currently the Provost Marshal of the Virginia Defense Force, an unarmed adjunct to the Virginia National Guard -- we are the halt and the lame! But an ancestor was the Adjutant of the Virginia Regiment during the Seven Years' War, and the Virginia Regiment is the direct predecessor of the Virginia Defense Force, so I seem to belong. Hell, I don't get paid, so I told 'em I'd do it as long as it was fun. The British Empire used to have a pause of two minutes at 11 AM on 11 NOV in memory of those who sacrificed in the Great War. This fell into abeyance for some decades but there have been recent efforts, I understand, to revive it. In any event, I hope that all will honor this day for what it means, a memorial to those who spent so much of themselves in wars. I am not suggesting that wars are logical or that war is a desirable part of life but, as has been noted, (Aescylus, perhaps? Daniel probably can pin the citation down.), "only the dead have seen the end of war". Be in peace! Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list--- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list