No Carlos, I bought them from eBay but with the lenses attached... I expect they have become mixed up but the question is why put a later lens on an older body. Possibly the cameras were supplied with Rolleinars and the owners then bought the Rollei Planars as an 'upgrade' John On 20/08/2010 12:50, "CarlosMFreaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > That is interesting John, did you buy the cameras and lenses brand new > close the manufacture year? > > Carlos > > 2010/8/20 John Wild <JWild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> Carlos, >> >> My surprise is that the lenses I bought as part of the SL35M and SL35ME >> cameras (which are pre 1976) are QBM IV. Not so much with the SL35E but >> still, according to Claus, these cameras were supposedly supplied with QBM >> III lenses too. >> >> I had never studied them in detail before, just accepting that they worked >> with the respective camera metering system and so had need to. Is all it >> means is that I can sell the lenses as QBM IV knowing they will work with >> 2000/3000 cameras! >> >> John >> >> >> On 20/08/2010 12:03, "CarlosMFreaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> 2010/8/20 John Wild <JWild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>>> >>>> All the other lenses I have are QBM IV although they may have been >>>> converted, because according to Prochnow's book they were not supplied as >>>> such for the SL35M, SL35ME nor SL35E which had QBM III mounts... >>> >>> John: >>> The explanation above is applied to Rollei and Carl Zeiss >>> lenses, however most Rolleinar/Japan lenses for the Rolleiflex made >>> from 1976/77 have QBM IV only, my two Rolleinar lenses were also made >>> for Rolleiflex QBM IV only, there are no Rolleinar lenses versions >>> for earlier QBM mounts except some QBM III for Voigtländer. The SL >>> 2000F was introduced in the market during 1980, however the first >>> complete prototype is from 1976 and then the Rolleinar lenses with QBM >>> IV were made from 1976 thinking in this camera. >>> >>> Carlos >>> --- >>> Rollei List >>> >>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >>> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >>> >>> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >>> >>> - Online, searchable archives are available at >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >>> >> >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> >> > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list